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Have the secrets of a lost civilisation finally been unearthed?
telegraph.co.u ^ | 4 October 2015 • 8:00am | Rupert Hawksley

Posted on 10/28/2015 10:41:05 AM PDT by Trumpinator

Based on Hancock's own investigations and interviews with archaeologists and astronomers, the book claimed survivors of this cataclysm, the giant flood remembered in myths all around the world, went on to settle in locations from Mexico to Egypt and impart their ancient knowledge to the other remaining humans.

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"Let's get to grips with that first of all," he says. "The foundations upon which history is based look increasingly suspect. Let's no longer shroud ourselves in the illusion that [mainstream] historians and archaeologists are invincible."

There are, according to Hancock, two smoking guns. Firstly, naondiamonds - types of diamonds that result from a cosmic impact - were discovered recently in North America. In 2014, the Journal of Geology confirmed that this matter was formed 12,800 years ago.

"For someone who proposed [in Fingerprints of the Gods] a giant cataclysm between 12,000 and 13,000 years ago, it is a bit of a gift from the universe to have a bunch of very major scientists now saying that there was indeed a giant comet impact 12,800 years ago," he says.

Secondly, excavations at an archaeological site in Turkey called Göbekli Tepe have uncovered ruins that are at least 11,600 years old. That is more than 6,000 years older than other megalithic sites such as Stonehenge. A civilisation capable of the advanced architecture and art discovered at Göbekli Tepe is not supposed to have existed 11,600 years ago.

So what is the explanation?

"We're looking at a place where the survivors of a lost civilisation settled." References to these survivors – described as sages, magicians or "mystery teachers of Heaven" – can be found in various cultures, he adds.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: ancientaliens; cataclysm; catastrophism; gobeklitepe; godsgravesglyphs; grahamhancock; history; turkey; vondaniken
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To: Steely Tom

PS: I want to add I don’t think this ancient proto civilization was traveling into space, etc. I think they were an advanced stone age civilization. No bronze or iron has been found earlier than the proposed dated - if they knew how to work iron and bronze the evidence would have long since been gone even by the time Sumeria rose up.


21 posted on 10/28/2015 11:21:29 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Trumpinator
I have used 3D printing. I can’t imagine anything produced from that would be able to stand the rigors of launch and the vacuum of space. What material are they using? Some super epoxy I imagine. Wow if true.

I'm not sure. They are either printing it out of high-temperature metal, or they are printing lost-wax molds and then using them to cast the engines.

It's pretty exciting, though. The most efficient engines are those that use expansion nozzles that are entirely fabricated out of thin-walled tubing. This is what was used on all the manned space flights, including the Space Shuttle. Unfortunately, these are quite expensive.

If they can be made by 3-D printing, it's a huge breakthrough. This is one of the angles the big guys are looking at.

3-D printing using liquid metals is a hot field. In more ways than one.

22 posted on 10/28/2015 11:23:19 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP: A Slower Handbasket)
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To: Trumpinator
Just a note to myself. I don't know of any mythology that exists that ever stated there was an Ice Age. Maybe the Greek myth of hyperborea.

But most human stories seem to start around the time just before and after a great flood.. So humans remember the end of the Ice Age but not before it?

You would think the Ice Age would have been such a big deal it was remembered in some myth.

23 posted on 10/28/2015 11:24:00 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Steely Tom

We could build spaceships in space using 3D printing....It is an amazing thing.


24 posted on 10/28/2015 11:24:59 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Mr. K

Oh, shucks. Don’t you know space aliens did those or showed mankind how to do them? It was on tv, so it has to be true. : )


25 posted on 10/28/2015 11:25:35 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: Trumpinator
Enough for me on Graham Hancock: "Heiser & Colavito on Hancock"
26 posted on 10/28/2015 11:26:08 AM PDT by SparkyBass
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To: SparkyBass

Kind of hard to defend a science that got something like the age of the first civilization wrong by thousands of years.


27 posted on 10/28/2015 11:30:38 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: ExSES

After all, it took millennia for the “enlightened” to accept that the earth revolves around the sun and our moon around the earth!

Wait...what?

/jk


28 posted on 10/28/2015 11:30:57 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: Trumpinator
Hancock has a degree in sociology, so we are supposed to believe him?

Question: What do you get when you cross a sociologist with the Mafia?

Answer: An offer that you can't understand.

29 posted on 10/28/2015 11:38:03 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Trumpinator

What the article fails to note is that Graham Hancock is a huckster who basically just repackaged theories from other occultists, like Edgar Cayce and the Freemasons and sold it as his own creation.

All that stuff about a lost civilization, destroyed in a cataclysm, who imparted knowledge to more primitive humans, the tablets hidden beneath the Sphinx, and even the date he proposes for the cataclysm, came from other people, they are not his ideas even.


30 posted on 10/28/2015 11:38:55 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Trumpinator

http://www.halexandria.org/dward197.htm

http://www.velikovsky.info/Immanuel_Velikovsky

http://www.immanuelvelikovsky.com/


31 posted on 10/28/2015 11:41:51 AM PDT by matthew fuller (BHO strategy: anti-American, anti-Western, pro-Islamic, pro-Iranian, and pro-Muslim Brotherhood.)
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To: Boogieman

Hancock never claimed it was his ideas? I am not defending Hancock but I don’t think Hancock ever claimed these were his ideas - he put them together as a journalist would.


32 posted on 10/28/2015 11:42:13 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Trumpinator
I watched an interview of an anthropologist (growed up pajama butt-boy) who refused to acknowledge that prior civilizations existed that had capabilities or understandings beyond he and his whizzbang colleagues.
33 posted on 10/28/2015 11:47:01 AM PDT by mcshot (We have but our word and honor - 0 has 0.)
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To: Trumpinator

“Humans don’t build things just to build them.”

Actually, I would say that is a uniquely human quality. We’re the only species on the planet that DOES build things just to build them, when they don’t have any practical purpose. We call it “art”.


34 posted on 10/28/2015 11:48:54 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Art for art’s sake is a relatively new thing. We can argue about that of course but building huge structures requires a purpose - ceremonial or practical is what I was getting at.


35 posted on 10/28/2015 11:52:41 AM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Steely Tom

“The most efficient engines are those that use expansion nozzles that are entirely fabricated out of thin-walled tubing.”

I think I remember reading about that. It was based on an innovation someone came up with to use the fuel that was being routed to the engine as coolant for the engine itself, right?


36 posted on 10/28/2015 11:53:39 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Trumpinator
Art for art’s sake is a relatively new thing.

...except maybe for all those ancient cave paintings. Are they art? Are they invocations to assist with a hunt? A recording of events? At 40,000 years old, they're pretty sophisticated.

37 posted on 10/28/2015 11:58:24 AM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: Trumpinator

“We can argue about that of course but building huge structures requires a purpose - ceremonial or practical is what I was getting at”

There’s often little difference between saying something has a “ceremonial” purpose, and no purpose at all though. For example, the Colossus of Rhodes. It was dedicated to the “sun god”, so you could say it had a “ceremonial purpose”, but it wasn’t a temple, so there were no ceremonies performed there or anything like that. It was just, for all intents and purposes, a giant piece of public art, like our statue of Liberty.


38 posted on 10/28/2015 12:01:17 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
I am of the opinion that ceremonial stuff - even if well made and good looking art wise serves a purpose.

For example the tragedies and comedies of ancient Greece started as pantomime to re-enact some mythological event and later became art for art's sake.

The word tragedy has its origin in the word for sacrificial goat and the comedy was important because the gods seem to be upset when humans were doing well and being prosperous so the comedy was designed to show the gods the people were really fumbling about so no need to smite them.

39 posted on 10/28/2015 12:07:40 PM PDT by Trumpinator (You are all fired!!! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP! TRUMP!)
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To: Boogieman
the tablets hidden beneath the Sphinx

as Rudyard Kipling wrote:

The secret hid

Under Cheops pyramid

Is that the contractor did

Cheops out of several millions.

40 posted on 10/28/2015 12:10:02 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (,)
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