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Teacher's answer to Common Core math problem has parents steaming
sheknows ^ | 10/27/2015 | Christine McDow

Posted on 10/27/2015 9:05:45 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

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To: ETL

Jan is 48 and Jake is 24?


61 posted on 10/27/2015 10:10:44 AM PDT by Vic S
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
I think both sides need to understand that if a person does not recognize that 5x3 = 3x5, then he/she doesn't understand enough yet. I would want a student to understand that 3+3+3+3+3 = 5+5+5 and to understand why. Anything short of that is a failure to understand a basic principle. There is no cause for a debate about which analysis is better when it is vital that the student understand both analyses and understand why it doesn't matter which is approach utilized.

My memory is that we were taught this principle as the commutative property of multiplication.

62 posted on 10/27/2015 10:19:10 AM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Public school teachers union.....the most vile people in the entire country.


63 posted on 10/27/2015 10:26:59 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: Vic S
Age Problems (real life problems with student/sibling/parent)

"Jan is 48 and Jake is 24?"

Yes.

a + 2a = 5a - 48

3a = 5a - 48

5a - 3a = 48

2a = 48

a = 24

64 posted on 10/27/2015 10:27:10 AM PDT by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better and safer America)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Every student should have to learn how to use a slide rule


65 posted on 10/27/2015 10:29:29 AM PDT by Axelsrd
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To: annieokie
Ahhh....the common sense of our uneducated ancestors. My mom and dad never finished HS. I was diagnosed as really, really good in math. So, there came the day when I proudly brought home my Algebra 1 book to show mom.

She looked at the paper, said "what is that -----? (she swore a lot) I told her. She took that book and could open it to any page and give the answers without all that "crazy stuff" I was writing down!

Maybe our anecdotes have a lot of what's wrong with common core involved in them. Nobody's learning to do things by common sense and experience. They're taking the mystery, discovery and feeling of accomplishment out of learning.

Then there's the "error is not permitted" mentality. Some of civilization's very best ideas and discoveries started out with things that went wrong. They got turned into something great with a little twisting and turning and observing. Creative Thinking is gone.

66 posted on 10/27/2015 10:30:34 AM PDT by grania
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
What is going on is basically this: Mentally dysfunctional theorists are trying to sound relevant--maybe even pretending to what I call "pseudo profundity"--by seeming to reinvent concepts that were once simple and direct (that is actually functional).

The mistake parents make is in trying to imagine a way that this patent silliness is relevant to anything of practical benefit to anyone.

Of course, parents are upset that their children's pursuit of both knowledge & methodology is being derailed by functional idiots' efforts to "reinvent the wheel"; or in this context, to turn simple math into a completely counter-productive drill. As difficult as it may be, they (the parents) need to fall back on their sense of humor, and turn complete folly into a useful lesson, to explain to their children how truly counter-productive it is when theorists in Government pour figurative sand into the basic machinery of life.

67 posted on 10/27/2015 10:31:59 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Resolute Conservative

Actually, IT is being outsourced. H1B the L1 visas. Wives of H1Bs and L1s. Not just Indians. Communist Chinese....working in their own countries, too.

I’m sure you know that, though.

My point is that without advanced math skills, no American will be able to work at H&R Block, let alone accounting, physics, chem, medicine.....

I suppose there’ll always be a ‘close enough for’ government work job. Those people can always estimate troop strength....rations needed....deaths of the elderly...dosages of prescriptions required for 0bamacare.


68 posted on 10/27/2015 10:39:33 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: grania

Teacher’s answer to Common Core math problem has parents steaming.

I don’t know why. Haven’t these indoctrinaters managed to reduce us to educational third world status.


69 posted on 10/27/2015 10:40:30 AM PDT by JayAr36 (How much more corruption will we willing to take from the Washington???????)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

Home school your kids.


70 posted on 10/27/2015 10:42:35 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son...)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

This makes me glad my grandchildren are being educated in the International Schools. They are learning what we did back in the 60’s. Even cursive. They are currently in China.


71 posted on 10/27/2015 10:43:39 AM PDT by KYGrandma (The sun shines bright on my old Kentucky home.....)
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To: DungeonMaster

Yes!


72 posted on 10/27/2015 10:43:40 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: Sacajaweau

The concept of multiplication was pretty easy for my kids to pick up. Then we spent a month memorizing the table. By the time we moved on to division, they knew multiplication ‘forward and backward’ and they were very happy to realize that they already knew division.

After that, we moved on with Saxon math.

Done and done. Both kids excelled in the subject.


73 posted on 10/27/2015 10:44:01 AM PDT by Marie (Hey GOP... The vulgarians are at the gate.)
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To: Fundamentally Fair

Wow!


74 posted on 10/27/2015 10:44:21 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: Marie

Saxon - Drill’em and Kill’em


75 posted on 10/27/2015 10:45:11 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Talisker
The notion--and never make the mistake that it is ever better than a notion--that equality of achievement is a noble or altruistic goal; the notion that drives egalitarian/collectivist movements, is based on compulsion, not reason. It undermines all peoples afflicted by it, by diverting their efforts from what they do well, to avoiding reality.

Communism is always the glorification of what does not work. It is always sold by appeals to the neurotic compulsions, which drive the "useful idiots." (See Compassion or Compulsion?.

76 posted on 10/27/2015 10:45:25 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: KYGrandma

Great for them!


77 posted on 10/27/2015 10:45:52 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: DoughtyOne

It is intentional and they don’t teach our history anymore.

Maybe people are ashamed of our history???


78 posted on 10/27/2015 10:47:21 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: ETL

What’s the answer? I think I solved it.


79 posted on 10/27/2015 10:50:08 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: pa_dweller

lol


80 posted on 10/27/2015 10:51:58 AM PDT by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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