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Obama in Roseburg: live updates on visits with Oregon school shooting victims
OregonLive ^ | October 09, 2015 at 11:11 AM | Molly Harbarger |

Posted on 10/09/2015 11:15:41 AM PDT by TroutStalker

It's little more than an hour until wheels down in Eugene for President Barack Obama. He is meeting with the families of victims of the Umpqua Community College shooting, then flying to Seattle for Democratic National Committee roundtable.

Gov. Kate Brown will accompany Obama on his visits. Neither are expected to speak publicly. Yet, many see Obama's meeting the grieving families as a maneuver to push gun control laws in Congress.

Especially after Obama's impassioned speech, saying mass shootings could be prevented with stricter gun laws.

Already, protestors are in position to greet Obama when his plane lands in Eugene.

Conservative leaders in Douglas County say they expect at least 2,400 to show up among three different protest sites.

Meanwhile, another college shooting was reported Friday morning in Flagstaff, Arizona. At Northern Arizona University, a freshman killed one student and injured three others before surrendering to police.

The incident has fueled social media activity on both sides of the gun control debate.

The Oregonian's political team, Ian Kullgren and Jeff Mapes, are in Roseburg today, so you can follow their Twitter accounts by clicking their names.

We'll also be updated this blog all day with news from the ground. So, check back early and often.

11:11 a.m. 

CQ5OP1jUEAABRzu.jpg-large.jpegBrothers Caleb, 21, and Joshua Brimmer, 19, waiting for President Barack Obama to arrive in Roseburg. "I think he (Obama) should listen to the American people."  

11:07 a.m. Read: Protesters turn out for Obama in Roseburg

It's the first Oregonian/OregonLive dispatch from on the ground today.

The group suggests demonstrators bring water, snacks and firearms if they feel the need to, but only handguns and to keep them holstered.

"Show the world that American gun owners are responsible patriots," a post by the group reads. "Look out for each other."

10:53 a.m. Not everyone is mad at Obama's visit. Oregonian reporter Rebecca Woolington said some people are gathered at the Roseburg Airport in support. She reports:

"I am embarrassed of what's going on up there," said Bryony Allenby, pointing up to the other protesters."

Allenby, who lives in Winchester, said she and family wanted to move away from the protesters who don't want Obama to visit. 

Allenby said she went to UCC, is still very connected to the school and lives nearby. She heard gunshots last week.

"It's a very rare privilege to be able to be that close to the president of the United States of America," Allenby said.

Nkenge Harmon Johnson, CEO of the Urban League of Portland, also appreciated his visit.

Steve Mims, the Ducks football writer for the Eugene Register-Guard tweeted: "Politics aside, just can't believe there are people who don't welcome a president to console those who lost so much."

10:48 a.m. Photographer Beth Nakamura is talking to some protestors. Rick Halle, who is with about 10 other people, said he wants to have a peaceful protest that gets across the message that they don't want Obama "pushing political agendas on us."

"We're upset that literally within moments of this tragedy Obama was using it to force a political agenda," Halle said.

TV stations have been showing the crowd slowly grow in size since 9 a.m.

10:12 a.m. While we wait for Obama's plane in Eugene, let's start with some relevant reading.

This morning, Oregonian political reporter Denis Theriault published a story about how researchers and psychologists have made strides in identifying people who might be moved to rampage to stop them before they start.

"You're not going to be able to look at someone and say, 'Two years from now, he's going to be the next school shooter,'" said Mario Scalora, a psychologist at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln who consults nationally on how to thwart mass shootings and other targeted violence.

But Scalora and others said listening — and speaking up when something isn't right — can stop such crimes. A burgeoning field of study called risk assessment is also making a difference.

Mass shootings "are very preventable," Scalora said. "In a lot of cases, there are warning signs."

Read the story: Stopping mass shooters: Experts share lessons since Thurston

That story reflects on an Oregon school shooting in 1998. Read about that one and other in this list of mass shootings in Oregon.

How do authorities determine what constitutes a mass shooting? We have your answer: How many U.S. mass shootings? Why it's so hard to pin down

-- Molly Harbarger


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1 posted on 10/09/2015 11:15:41 AM PDT by TroutStalker
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To: TroutStalker

He’s here by me begging people for money, so it is just a political stop.


2 posted on 10/09/2015 11:17:45 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

I should say he is here TOMORROW after your stop.


3 posted on 10/09/2015 11:18:09 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: TroutStalker

You promised updates?


4 posted on 10/09/2015 11:18:39 AM PDT by miserare ( RIP TrooperJoseph Ponder, RIP Deputy Darren Goforth; RIP Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz)
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To: TroutStalker

So Obama should declare that no one on psychotropic drugs can own a gun, no one without a father in the home can own a gun, and no atheist can own a gun. Let’s hear him make that speech.


5 posted on 10/09/2015 11:23:22 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: miserare

I have a bit of apprehension about this whole scene. too much possibility for an “incident” involving BO and a shooter...

Hope I am wrong, truly


6 posted on 10/09/2015 11:24:05 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: txrefugee

No Lib (emotional thinkers all) should be allowed a gun.


7 posted on 10/09/2015 11:25:47 AM PDT by Paladin2 (my non desktop devices are no longer allowed to try to fix speling and punctuation, nor my gran-mah.)
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To: 100American

Let’s not make him a martyr.

I don’t want to see “Barack Obama Junior High”, “Barack Obama Boulevard”, “Barack Obama Airport”, etc. in my city.


8 posted on 10/09/2015 11:25:58 AM PDT by miserare ( RIP TrooperJoseph Ponder, RIP Deputy Darren Goforth; RIP Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz)
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To: miserare

that’s what graffiti is for


9 posted on 10/09/2015 11:28:32 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

You have a good point there!

But what if they have to rename Mount Denali after him?

That’ll take a lot of graffiti.


10 posted on 10/09/2015 11:30:14 AM PDT by miserare ( RIP TrooperJoseph Ponder, RIP Deputy Darren Goforth; RIP Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz)
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To: TroutStalker

That’s a great picture of those brothers and their flags and the sign.


11 posted on 10/09/2015 11:30:18 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: TroutStalker

He can’t defeat the enemy, so he goes after our own country-


12 posted on 10/09/2015 11:30:57 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: 100American

“I have a bit of apprehension about this whole scene. too much possibility for an “incident” involving BO and a shooter...

Hope I am wrong, truly”

If there is any kind of “incident” it will be done by a plant.


13 posted on 10/09/2015 11:31:46 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: TroutStalker

Love the pic of the Brimmer bros!


14 posted on 10/09/2015 11:33:27 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: TroutStalker

Chicago has a firearm violence rate of 2.84 persons an hour, so far this year, and tops nearly everywhere in the homicide rate and the rate of “mass” shootings. How many of those victims has Obama made a personal point to lift up, visit, or even just mention??


15 posted on 10/09/2015 11:37:22 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Paladin2

“No Lib (emotional thinkers all) should be allowed a gun”.

No, they shouldn’t. They’re crazy and too stupid to safely handle a gun.


16 posted on 10/09/2015 11:38:00 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: txrefugee
"without a father in the home"

There's a large part of the problem right there. Not to be corny, but a LOT of the shootings in the black community by youngsters is a cry for help. Acting out from not having had a father and having ZERO discipline, honor, respect, etc.. It is a YUGE part of the problem.

Add to that our schools teaching children to ignore their parent(s) and that they shall do whatever they want.

I believe some of these mass shootings are instigated by our own insurgent government working behind the scenes (via Internet) to recruit shooters in order to advance their ultimate goal of gun confiscation. They need a bunch of EXCUSES TO DO IT before they do it.

17 posted on 10/09/2015 11:39:35 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: laplata

If true, it will be FAKED and he’ll be safely whisked away out of the country. He’s going to leave the country ANYWAY to avoid criminal prosecution after his term expires (if he ever leaves office, that is).


18 posted on 10/09/2015 11:41:34 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

We can put nothing past the Fascists.


19 posted on 10/09/2015 11:53:01 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Bob434

“He can’t defeat the enemy, so he goes after our own country-”

He doesn’t want to do anything to defeat any enemy we have. America is his enemy.


20 posted on 10/09/2015 11:55:17 AM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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