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Obama in Roseburg: live updates on visits with Oregon school shooting victims
OregonLive ^ | October 09, 2015 at 11:11 AM | Molly Harbarger |

Posted on 10/09/2015 11:15:41 AM PDT by TroutStalker

It's little more than an hour until wheels down in Eugene for President Barack Obama. He is meeting with the families of victims of the Umpqua Community College shooting, then flying to Seattle for Democratic National Committee roundtable.

Gov. Kate Brown will accompany Obama on his visits. Neither are expected to speak publicly. Yet, many see Obama's meeting the grieving families as a maneuver to push gun control laws in Congress.

Especially after Obama's impassioned speech, saying mass shootings could be prevented with stricter gun laws.

Already, protestors are in position to greet Obama when his plane lands in Eugene.

Conservative leaders in Douglas County say they expect at least 2,400 to show up among three different protest sites.

Meanwhile, another college shooting was reported Friday morning in Flagstaff, Arizona. At Northern Arizona University, a freshman killed one student and injured three others before surrendering to police.

The incident has fueled social media activity on both sides of the gun control debate.

The Oregonian's political team, Ian Kullgren and Jeff Mapes, are in Roseburg today, so you can follow their Twitter accounts by clicking their names.

We'll also be updated this blog all day with news from the ground. So, check back early and often.

11:11 a.m. 

CQ5OP1jUEAABRzu.jpg-large.jpegBrothers Caleb, 21, and Joshua Brimmer, 19, waiting for President Barack Obama to arrive in Roseburg. "I think he (Obama) should listen to the American people."  

11:07 a.m. Read: Protesters turn out for Obama in Roseburg

It's the first Oregonian/OregonLive dispatch from on the ground today.

The group suggests demonstrators bring water, snacks and firearms if they feel the need to, but only handguns and to keep them holstered.

"Show the world that American gun owners are responsible patriots," a post by the group reads. "Look out for each other."

10:53 a.m. Not everyone is mad at Obama's visit. Oregonian reporter Rebecca Woolington said some people are gathered at the Roseburg Airport in support. She reports:

"I am embarrassed of what's going on up there," said Bryony Allenby, pointing up to the other protesters."

Allenby, who lives in Winchester, said she and family wanted to move away from the protesters who don't want Obama to visit. 

Allenby said she went to UCC, is still very connected to the school and lives nearby. She heard gunshots last week.

"It's a very rare privilege to be able to be that close to the president of the United States of America," Allenby said.

Nkenge Harmon Johnson, CEO of the Urban League of Portland, also appreciated his visit.

Steve Mims, the Ducks football writer for the Eugene Register-Guard tweeted: "Politics aside, just can't believe there are people who don't welcome a president to console those who lost so much."

10:48 a.m. Photographer Beth Nakamura is talking to some protestors. Rick Halle, who is with about 10 other people, said he wants to have a peaceful protest that gets across the message that they don't want Obama "pushing political agendas on us."

"We're upset that literally within moments of this tragedy Obama was using it to force a political agenda," Halle said.

TV stations have been showing the crowd slowly grow in size since 9 a.m.

10:12 a.m. While we wait for Obama's plane in Eugene, let's start with some relevant reading.

This morning, Oregonian political reporter Denis Theriault published a story about how researchers and psychologists have made strides in identifying people who might be moved to rampage to stop them before they start.

"You're not going to be able to look at someone and say, 'Two years from now, he's going to be the next school shooter,'" said Mario Scalora, a psychologist at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln who consults nationally on how to thwart mass shootings and other targeted violence.

But Scalora and others said listening — and speaking up when something isn't right — can stop such crimes. A burgeoning field of study called risk assessment is also making a difference.

Mass shootings "are very preventable," Scalora said. "In a lot of cases, there are warning signs."

Read the story: Stopping mass shooters: Experts share lessons since Thurston

That story reflects on an Oregon school shooting in 1998. Read about that one and other in this list of mass shootings in Oregon.

How do authorities determine what constitutes a mass shooting? We have your answer: How many U.S. mass shootings? Why it's so hard to pin down

-- Molly Harbarger


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Oregon
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To: Jack Black

The woman with the, “I’m Christian” poster says it all.


101 posted on 10/09/2015 1:43:39 PM PDT by freedom6178
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To: Jack Black

I would guess it is the most secure place now. So he will force the parents back there? Hospital will be next.


102 posted on 10/09/2015 1:44:14 PM PDT by TroutStalker ("Protect the hypersensitive. Ban everything.")
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To: Jack Black

Short and sweet.


103 posted on 10/09/2015 1:44:37 PM PDT by Big Horn (Rebuild the GOP to a conservative party)
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To: Jack Black

Thanks for keeping in current Jack.


104 posted on 10/09/2015 1:46:05 PM PDT by TroutStalker ("Protect the hypersensitive. Ban everything.")
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To: TroutStalker

bttt


105 posted on 10/09/2015 1:48:00 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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To: Liberty Valance
All done, he's outta there.

2 p.m. Obama waved at supporters before getting on Marine One, the helicopter that will take him to Eugene.

1:51 p.m. 

1:49 p.m. Some in Roseburg are reporting that Obama has left Roseburg High School and is headed back to the airport. Coast guard helicopters are circling again, as they did when he flew between Eugene and Roseburg.

Obama is planned to head back to Eugene and then fly to Seattle for a Democratic National Committee event.

1:33 p.m. The last person to leave the protest site at the Roseburg Airport was holding a sign that said, "Go home to Kenya, little man." 

The Oregonian/OregonLive crew has moved on to cover memorial services tonight and write more in-depth pieces about today's events. Check back later for links and photos.

106 posted on 10/09/2015 2:08:28 PM PDT by TroutStalker ("Protect the hypersensitive. Ban everything.")
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To: TroutStalker
"10:53 a.m. Not everyone is mad at Obama's visit. Oregonian reporter Rebecca Woolington said some people are gathered at the Roseburg Airport in support. She reports:

"I am embarrassed of what's going on up there," said Bryony Allenby, pointing up to the other protesters."

Allenby, who lives in Winchester, said she and family wanted to move away from the protesters who don't want Obama to visit.

Allenby said she went to UCC, is still very connected to the school and lives nearby. She heard gunshots last week."

This lady is FOS. Ain't no way in hell she heard any gunshots in Winchester, Five Miles from Roseburg. And through Five Miles of I-5 traffic noise.

If she heard any gunshots, it may have been from her husband shooting himself (unable to live with her and the Liberal life style any longer) or a hunter in the area. But she sure didn't hear it from a Black Man shooting people inside a classroom Five Miles away.

Ed

107 posted on 10/09/2015 2:18:26 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: Jack Black

Cool truck!


108 posted on 10/09/2015 2:34:33 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: laplata

He’s here in Beverly Hills tomorrow begging for money.


109 posted on 10/09/2015 2:49:04 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

He’s here in Beverly Hills tomorrow begging for money.


Those Useful Idiots will give him a lot of money.


110 posted on 10/09/2015 3:09:30 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata

Especially the American Jews who hate Israeli Jews.


111 posted on 10/09/2015 3:30:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

They really are ignorant.


112 posted on 10/09/2015 3:33:56 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: TroutStalker

What’s the deal with this headline? Meeting with victims who are dead?

This is so morbid if he is calling up the dead at the morgue.


113 posted on 10/09/2015 3:41:02 PM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: laplata

Doesn’t this demonstration remind you of the Bundy stand-off?


114 posted on 10/09/2015 3:57:12 PM PDT by Daffynition (*We are not descended from fearful men*)
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To: TroutStalker; goodnesswins; PROCON; Twotone; VeryFRank; Clinging Bitterly; Rio; aimhigh; ...

If you would like more information about what's happening in Oregon, please FReepmail me.

I lost my Oregon list when my computer crashed last year, so please send me your name by FReepmail if you want to be on this list.

115 posted on 10/09/2015 3:57:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Daffynition

Doesn’t this demonstration remind you of the Bundy stand-off?


That’s a very good point.


116 posted on 10/09/2015 4:07:27 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Daffynition

This video is of a parade I attend when I can. About 550 people carrying. Not bad for a county of about 1600 people.

The sheriff leads. :)

You can go to the 7 min. mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN0z1XAhwNc


117 posted on 10/09/2015 4:10:29 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: laplata
Most excellent....God Bless those who carry

CARRY ON!


118 posted on 10/09/2015 4:29:49 PM PDT by Daffynition (*We are not descended from fearful men*)
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To: TroutStalker

I love the flags!


119 posted on 10/09/2015 4:36:20 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz REMAINS the only true Conservative in this race. ~~ just livin' life~~)
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To: Bob434

But I have never done graffiti before, you’ll have to teach me how. ;>)


120 posted on 10/09/2015 4:45:13 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz REMAINS the only true Conservative in this race. ~~ just livin' life~~)
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