Audi and Skoda say 3.3m cars have 'cheat' emissions software

BBC ^ | 09-28-2015 | Staff

[Red Badger]

Audi and Skoda say they have a total of 3.3 million cars fitted with the software that allowed parent company Volkswagen to cheat US emissions tests.

Some 2.1 million Audis affected worldwide include 1.42 million in western Europe, with 577,000 in Germany, and almost 13,000 in the US.

Czech-based Skoda said 1.2 million of its cars were involved, but has yet to give a country or model breakdown.

Separately, German prosecutors started a probe against VW's former boss.

Former chief executive Martin Winterkorn will be investigated over "allegations of fraud in the sale of cars with manipulated emissions data," German authorities said on Monday.

The Audi models affected include the A1, A3, A4, A5, A6, TT, Q3 and Q5 models, a spokesman told the Reuters news agency.

[9YearLurker]

“Audi—this is truthiness in engineering”?

[Red Badger]

Engineering? yes, Programming? no......................

[nascarnation]

If you don’t cheat, you look like an idiot; if you cheat and don’t get caught, you look like a hero; if you cheat and get caught, you look like a dope. Put me where I belong.

Darrell Waltrip, 1976

[moose07]

The rest of the world gets: Audi, vorsprung durch technik, ( “Ahead through technology”)

[Gay State Conservative]

I don’t give a rat’s hindquarters what my diesel emits.

[kvanbrunt2]

computers with the same evil software.

I would love to buy a bunch of these. And get the software and open aource it so that everyone could upload. Great idea.

[Red Badger]

If You Ain’t Cheatin’, You Ain’t Tryin....................

[WayneS]

Does your car run well?

If it does, what’s the problem?

[paterfamilias]

agreed

[RayChuang88]

Correct. Up until a few years ago, it was almost impossible to engineer a practical HCCI engine; but now, with modern valvetrain design, electronic engine controls and modern pressurized direct fuel injection systems, HCCI is on the very of becoming a viable alternative to diesel (but without the diesel emission issues).

[Up Yours Marxists]

All my newer cars run on pure ethanol. In other words, they run on pure corn-e.

[Chewbarkah]

Can someone give a technical explanation of this (numbers are made up for illustration):
1) Car A gets 25 mpg with the “test mode” software running.
2) With “illegal” software changes, same vehicle performs better and gets 30 mpg.
3) There being no free energy lunch, this can only happen via more efficient and complete combustion. That would result in lower hydrocarbon emissions. How exactly is this worse for the environment?

Is the gubment requiring more hydrocarbon emission as a tradeoff for something they have decided is worse? What?

[Fledermaus]

I don’t blame them. The EPA CAFE standards are stupid and arbitrary and is nothing but libearl tyranny.

[sheana]

Actually I was looking at buying a new Audi. Maybe the prices will go down now. 😜

[FreedomPoster]

>>I would guess that diesel-powered Porsches have the same problem.

I doubt it. I think the Porsches only use the 3.0 6-cyl with pee-fluid injection. There isn’t a problem there, as far as I know. The problems are with the 2.0 TDI with the DPF and no urea injection. Porsche doesn’t use anything that small, at least over here.

[FreedomPoster]

See my previous post.

[FreedomPoster]

I darn sure wouldn’t take it anywhere near a dealer, unless you want an ECU flash the results of which you might not like.

[Dustoff45]

I like what the engineers did. They were asked to set up the car so that when it was tested, the test results were excellent and when the car was on the road that the performance was excellent.

Sounds like the engineers delivered..in all innocence.

[Dustoff45]

I can understand that some districts with strict emissions testing might fail the diesels. But they might become wise investments for buyers in parts of the country without local emissions testings.

What I fear is some bureaucratic move to make the cars illegal. That would be a mistake.

[FreedomPoster]

I’ve told a couple of people not to let their cars anywhere near a dealer. You likely don’t want their ECU “update”.