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Ben Carson's Warning
Townhall.com ^ | September 24, 2015 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 09/24/2015 7:37:03 AM PDT by Kaslin

"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits." (Matthew 7:15-16)

Major newspaper editorials and some columnists have their knickers in a twist over remarks by Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson. Appearing last Sunday on "Meet the Press," Carson was asked by host Chuck Todd whether he believes Islam is consistent with the Constitution. "No, I don't," he said. "I would not advocate that we put a Muslim in charge of this nation." Asked whether he could vote for a Muslim for Congress, Carson said Congress is a different story, but that it "depends on who that Muslim is and what their policies are."

Carson critics are quick to mention Article VI of the Constitution, which prohibits a "religious test" for office, but that means no one can be barred from office because of their faith; it does not and could not prevent citizens from voting for or against someone for religious reasons.

Two years ago, The U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom reported that 10 of the 15 "worst violators of religious freedom" in the world are nations in which Islam is the dominant religion.

If you prefer the thoughts of a cultural icon, consider what singer Art Garfunkel said. As reported on Daily Mail.com, Garfunkel noted that Muslims are transforming Europe. He referenced "Reflections of the Revolution in Europe," a 2009 book by Christopher Caldwell, which argues, "that mass immigration by Muslims is altering the culture of Europe because of their reluctance to join the culture of their new homelands." The book claims Muslims do not so much enhance European culture as supplant it, and are "patiently conquering Europe's cities, street by street."

Is that bigotry, or reality? Is it bigotry to quote what various Islamic leaders say are their intentions when it comes to establishing a worldwide caliphate and replacing the U.S. Constitution with Sharia Law, or is it a warning we should take seriously and respond to as we would react to any other invasion?

"Mina" (not her real name to protect her family) is a U.S. citizen and longtime friend who was born in Tehran and still has family there. She wrote me about the intentions of the mullahs and their nuclear deal with the U.S. and five other nations: "The mullahs are buying time ... (to) finish their nuclear program. Americans underestimate these people. It will be Hezbollah, ISIS, or al-Qaida doing their dirty work. They will give them the nuclear bomb. They are very shrewd. They'll sit back and watch."

"Mina" says the Iranian regime has been a huge supporter of President Obama, whose name in Persian, she notes, translates as "he is with us." She asks why Arab and Muslim countries don't take in the migrants now fleeing their native lands for Europe (and now thanks to President Obama the U.S.). It's a good question and the answer ought to be obvious to anyone not afraid of being labeled a "bigot." They support the invasion.

While not all Muslims are terrorists, Breitbart recently revealed a startling statistic. "In a recent survey conducted by AlJazeera.net, the website for the Al Jazeera Arabic television channel," it writes, "respondents overwhelmingly support the Islamic State terrorist group, with 81 percent voting 'YES' on whether they approved of ISIS's conquests in the region." Eighty-one percent.

We are at war with a radical ideology that wishes to destroy the West and drastically alter our way of life. That is what Ben Carson was getting at when he made his remarks about a Muslim president in the White House.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; carson; islam; muslims
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To: Kaslin

“Muslims do not so much enhance European culture as supplant it, and are “patiently conquering Europe’s cities, street by street.”

Spot on and consistent with Mexico / Central America migration theory in the U.S.


21 posted on 09/24/2015 8:12:59 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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To: theBuckwheat

A Muslim must be obedient to the Koran
A President must be obedient to the Constitution
A person cannot serve two masters.


22 posted on 09/24/2015 8:16:52 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Trump/Cruz 2016)
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To: Kaslin
The United States Constitution stands for freedom, liberty, and God. Islam works under the rule of Sharia law an oppressive form of government, actually Islam is a form of government...few mosques allow women to enter the 'front door', they must enter a side door if women are allowed at all. Women have their day on the ski slopes, cannot share it with men. Must remain covered so as not to titillate the lascivious males....

Dr. Carson Is RIGHT!!

23 posted on 09/24/2015 8:19:21 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

I wonder if Carson is also along with Trump and Cruz. Instead of 2 working together perhaps the 2 of them.


24 posted on 09/24/2015 8:20:33 AM PDT by Patriot Babe
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Even Islam explains it's incompatibility with our constitution in it's demand for shariah law in America. A separate set of laws..............
25 posted on 09/24/2015 8:21:54 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Aria

The pope sure made obama look small today.


26 posted on 09/24/2015 8:23:32 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
"Carson is able to say the things that Trump can't."

And what subjects are off limits to Trump?

27 posted on 09/24/2015 8:23:40 AM PDT by matthew fuller (This is black slime and it needs to be eradicated from American society. (obama and holder))
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To: glennaro
There is a fundamental reason the majority of adherents still live in tents with sand floors and no running water.
28 posted on 09/24/2015 8:25:46 AM PDT by going hot
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To: Kaslin

Quinnipiac Sept. 24

Carson 49% Clinton 42%
Bush 44% Clinton 42%
Fiorina 44% Clinton 43%
Trump 43% Clinton 45%


29 posted on 09/24/2015 8:26:50 AM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: Kaslin

I take issue with his stance that a Muslim President would be bad but a Muslim Congressman would be ok. News Flash, Dr. Carson: both jobs require swearing to uphold the Constitution.

Let’s remember, too, that this is the same Dr. Carson who said during the debates that he would have worked with our “moderate Arab friends” to get Bin Laden instead of invading Afghanistan. That tells me that he has no understanding of the threat from Islamic terrorism.


30 posted on 09/24/2015 8:31:17 AM PDT by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: Kaslin

Posted earlier about how “You shall know them by their fruits”.


31 posted on 09/24/2015 8:36:25 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
"The very fact that this is even an issue speaks volumes to how low we have sunk as a nation."

Unfortunately "sunk as a nation" means a certain type of ambivalence. Like as in moral turpitude or a national salaciousness. Which we may be experiencing with the big push for LGBT normalization, but that's not what what's happening in the Islamification. With what we know about Islam through the last 2 decades is that its a brutal fascist movement with grand designs of expansion throughout the world by any means.

Look at the disconnect created by the combination of political correctness and the social progressives/liberals.

On one hand they persecute any they can for not following the PC rules on socially progressive issues like LGBT, Adultery and abortion, but on the other hand they will allow Islam to overtake and replace [by means of violence] western christian thought -- which is far more right and far less tolerant and more violent than Western conservatives.

One wonders what it is that the eponymous 'they' want by supporting and pushing two culturally incompatible systems because it seems obvious to me that Islam will beat the snot out of the PC liberals here in the U.S Perhaps that's by design?

32 posted on 09/24/2015 8:53:05 AM PDT by Fhios (Racial balkanization is just the .....)
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To: Kaslin

“You will know them by their fruits.”

I so desperately wanted to hear this verse quoted when people wanted to debate whether Obama is Christian or Muslim. The best answer to give is:

“Obama says he is Christian and I am in no position to argue. All I can say is the Bible says ‘You will know them by their fruits.’ and you can look to see if Obama’s fruits are consistent with his claims.”

This alters the discussion to being not about who Obama claims he is but what Obama is doing to verify his claim.


33 posted on 09/24/2015 9:06:50 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (SECEDE TEXAS!! If not now, when?)
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To: Kaslin
We might be reminded of John Quincy Adams' words in his "Jubilee" Address in New York City in the Year 1839, in which he sheds light on America's founding philosophy and understanding of the various laws of nations at that time, as follows:
"The Declaration of Independence recognized the European law of nations, as practiced among Christian nations, to be that by which they considered themselves bound, and of which they claimed the rights. This system is founded upon the principle, that the state of nature between men and between nations, is a state of peace. But there was a Mahometan law of nations, which considered the state of nature as a state of war – an Asiatic law of nations, which excluded all foreigners from admission within the territories of the state – a colonial law of nations, which excluded all foreigners from admission within the colonies – and a savage Indian law of nations, by which the Indian tribes within the bounds of the United States, were under their protection, though in a condition of undefined dependence upon the governments of the separate states. With all these different communities, the relations of the United States were from the time when they had become an independent nation, variously modified according to the operation of those various laws. It was the purpose of the Constitution of the United States to establish justice over them all.

" The commercial and political relations of the Union with the Christian European nations, were principally with Great Britain, France, and Spain, and considerably with the Netherlands and Portugal. With all these there was peace; but with Britain and Spain, controversies involving the deepest interests and the very existence of the nation, were fermenting, and negotiations of the most humiliating character were pending, from which the helpless imbecility of the confederation afforded no prospect of relief. With the other European states there was scarcely any intercourse. The Baltic was an unknown sea to our navigators, and all the rich and classical regions of the Mediterranean were interdicted to the commercial enterprise of our merchants, and the dauntless skill of our mariners, by the Mahometan merciless warfare of the Barbary powers. Scarcely had the peace of our independence been concluded, when three of our merchant-vessels had been captured by the corsairs of Algiers, and their crews, citizens of the Union, had been pining for years in slavery, appealing to their country for redemption, in vain. Nor was this all. By the operation of this state of things, all the shores of the Black sea, of the whole Mediterranean, of the islands on the African coast, of the southern ports of France, of all Spain and of Portugal, were closed against our commerce, as if they had been hermetically sealed; while Britain, everywhere our rival and competitor was counteracting by every stimulant within her power every attempt on our part to compound by tribute with the Barbarian for peace.

" Great Britain had also excluded us from all commerce in our own vessels with her colonies, and France, notwithstanding her alliance with us during the war, had after the conclusion of the peace adopted the same policy. She was jealous of our aggrandizement, fearful of our principles, linked with Spain in the project of debarring us from the navigation of the Mississippi, and settled in the determination to shackle us in the development of the gigantic powers which, with insidious sagacity, she foresaw might be abused.

" Notwithstanding all these discouragements, the inextinguishable spirit of freedom, which had carried your forefathers through the exterminating war of the Revolution, was yet unsuppressed. At the very time when the nerveless confederacy could neither protect nor redeem their sailors from Algerian captivity, the floating city of the Taho beheld the stripes and stars of the Union, opening to the breeze from a schooner of thirty tons, and inquired where was the ship of which that frail fabric was doubtless the tender. The Southern ocean was stiff vexed with the harpoons of their whalemen; but Britain excluded their oil, by prohibitory duties and the navigation act, from her markets, and the more indulgent liberality of France would consent to the illumination of her cities by the quakers of Nantucket, only upon condition that they should forsake their native island, and become the naturalized denizens of Dunkirk.

"In the same year, when the Convention at Philadelphia was occupied in preparing the Constitution of the United States for the consideration of the people, two vessels, called the Columbia and the Washington, fitted out by a company of merchants at Boston, sailed upon a voyage combining the circumnavigation of the globe, discovery upon the shores of the Pacific ocean, and the trade with the savages of the Sandwich islands, and with the celestial empire of China, all in one undertaking. The result of this voyage was the discovery of the Columbia river, so named from the ship which first entered within her capes, since unjustly confounded with the fabulous Oregon or river of the West, but really securing to the United States the right of prior discovery, and laying the foundation of the right of extension of our territory from the Atlantic to the Pacific ocean.

"All this however was but the development of national character in the form of private enterprise. The foreign affairs of the Union when President Washington assumed the administration of the executive power, were in a state of chaos, out of which an orderly and harmonious world was to be educed."- (Excerpt from John Quincy Adams' "Jubilee" Address, April 1839)

Adams' Address, by invitation of the New York City Historical Society in celebration of the 50th Anniversary of George Washington's Inauguration, can be read here.
34 posted on 09/24/2015 9:12:23 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Kaslin

The world has truly gone mad and is bent on self-destruction. Illegal immigration must be stopped, then reversed or we have no right to exist. Not only have we forgotten what happened on September 11, 2001 but we are inviting it to happen all over again!

This acceptance of Mohammedism as a “religion of peace” is madness. Not only is it NOT a “religion of peace”, it is NOT a religion. It is a cult of hate founded by a camel-humping pedophile with not an original thought in his feeble brain, save slaughter.

Kowtowing to every demand by Mohammedans, here and abroad, is sheer lunacy. We are on a path to our slavery and destruction. We allow mosques to be built; we teach their filthy philosophy in our schools, we even import more terrorists to kill us.

It must end.


35 posted on 09/24/2015 9:13:52 AM PDT by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Kaslin; facedodge

Posted by Facedodge back in 2011 but still relevant today.

Three strangers strike up a conversation in the airport passenger lounge in Bozeman, Montana, awaiting their flights.

One is an American Indian passing through from Lame Deer. Another is a Cowboy on his way to Billings for a livestock show and the third passenger is a fundamentalist Arab student, newly arrived at Montana State University from the Middle East.

Their discussion drifts to their diverse cultures. Soon, the two Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout, radical Muslim and the conversation falls into an uneasy lull.

The cowboy leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table and tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face. The wind outside is blowing tumbleweeds around, and the old windsock is flapping; but still no plane comes.

Finally, the American Indian clears his throat and softly he speaks, “At one time here, my people were many, but sadly, now we are few.”

The Muslim student raises an eyebrow and leans forward, “Once my people were few,” he sneers, “and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?”

The Montana cowboy shifts his toothpick to one side of his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson says in a drawl,

“That’s ‘cause we ain’t played Cowboys and Muslims yet, but I do believe it’s a-comin’.”


36 posted on 09/24/2015 10:00:59 AM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: ManHunter

[Considering the fact that the Quran advocates lying to “infidels”, how would one ever determine if a Muslim was telling the truth about his/her adherence to the principles espoused by our founding documents?]

That’s because Islamic doctrine was first set down by a sly manipulator whose conversations with “God” conveniently justified the criminal acts of him and his minions.


37 posted on 09/24/2015 10:35:58 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: theBuckwheat

“The question being asked of Dr. Carson is either foolish, ignorant or is designed to create offense where there should be none.”

I’ll take number three.


38 posted on 09/24/2015 11:54:18 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: TheRobb7

“Why do we keep talking about something America just did...twice?”

Becaue the truth is NOT welcome in this country?


39 posted on 09/24/2015 11:56:17 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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