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Here’s Audio And Video Of Trump’s Forceful Praise Of Barak Obama In 2009 (Bye Bye Trump)
Youtube ^ | Nov 14, 2008 | Youtube

Posted on 09/23/2015 5:29:00 AM PDT by demshateGod

This one too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iuj7VMB48o


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hellotrump; obama; stupidtitle; tds; trump; wishfulthinking
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Did you mean 2008?

I presume you did. I did, but only intellectually, it hadn't permeated me at that point, meaning that he could ACTUALLY be as bad as my fears.

I deep down didn't want to believe the truth I knew in my head.

A sad admission, particularly considering what happened. I didn't want to believe he was the face of evil in our time. I just wasn't ready for it.

261 posted on 09/24/2015 10:39:15 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: C. Edmund Wright; entropy12
"You are unpatriotic and unfair if you criticize any president on the first day in office. A president is for ALL Americans, not just democrats or republicans. We always hope he will succeed in improving life in America."

This is satire, right? No, tragically, I know it isn't.

Entropy, where were you in 2008? Did you miss the outrage from the left when Rush Limbaugh stated that he hoped Obama wouldn't succeed?

Do you think he was wrong to say that? Unpatriotic?

If you do, HOW could you think that? We knew Obama was the most far left freak to ever hit the Oval Office. We knew he was a socialist redistributor who wanted to remake the country to fit his leftwing fantasies.

In view of that knowledge, why would you have wished for his success in doing so!?

262 posted on 09/24/2015 10:50:58 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: entropy12
"You are unpatriotic and unfair if you criticize any president on the first day in office."

That reminds me of Hillary's .... I am sick and tired ....

This is not logic. This is stupid. Barack 0bama was the most liberal Senator ever. BH0 was anti-American. BH0 was caught in multiple lies. BH0 hid his entire background from the public, including his birth certificate. He was very clear on his plan to fundamentally change America.

Rush had it right from day 1 ... I Hope Obama Fails

This is no way to excuse Trump's '09 statements on 0bama on a conservative forum.

263 posted on 09/24/2015 11:37:28 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Lakeshark

No, I meant 2002, when he ran against Alan Keyes for Senate. Or was it 04. Whenever that race was. And then of course the convention speech 2004.

No, by 08 I was way past needing to understand Obama. Then again, by 1992 I was onto John Mccain. I’m early to almost all these parties.


264 posted on 09/24/2015 11:47:39 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: entropy12; Servant of the Cross; CatherineofAragon
You are a bit late. You should have spent money telling that to Americans BEFORE they voted for Obama TWICE. Either you have not enough money to spread your words or American voters were ill-informed. Which is it?

No, I was not late...I was early. Lotta folks listened. It might have escaped you, but Obama did not get 100% of the vote. A lot of us, not you and Trump apparently, were onto him way before. So yeah, American voters are almost always ill informed. I'm surprised you hadn't gleaned that til now.

PING: He's digging himself DEEPER and DEEPER PING!!!

265 posted on 09/24/2015 11:50:45 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: entropy12; Servant of the Cross; CatherineofAragon
So by your logic, Fiorina should also be disqualified?

No, by my logic, which IS logic, Fiorina should be treated just like Trump should be treated - which is to appreciate what they're bringing to the conversation that is good (which is a lot from both) and to not trust their conservative instincts due to their poor judgments in the past and liberal reflexes.

The "he thought he had me, but he was wrong" PING!!!!

266 posted on 09/24/2015 11:52:38 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: CatherineofAragon; C. Edmund Wright

I am from Chicago, and I knew Obama better than most on FR. I was 100% against Obama, personally. But the point we are debating in a civil manner is not whether Obama was conservative, liberal or socialist or communist.

The point of debate is....should Americans unite behind a newly elected president, or begin the divide immediately. Even a socialist community organizer deserves benefit of doubt that he will evolve and do what would be best for all Americans.

For example if Ted Cruz gets elected president in 2016, would Hillary be wise to wish him success on the first day in office or immediately start calling him a right wing extremist?

If Trump had continued to praise Obama after first term, then Trump should be disparaged, justifiably. But to regurgitate a statement made by Trump 8 years ago, on first day of office of the newly elected president, and disparage Trump for it is unpatriotic, unfair and smacks of desperation by supporters of some other candidate who is failing to resonate with voters.


267 posted on 09/24/2015 12:11:12 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors! Trump has no rich donors)
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To: entropy12; Servant of the Cross; CatherineofAragon

I’ll stand with Rush - which is where I was instinctively at the time. You can stand with Morning Joe. Or Michael Smerconish. Or Michael Medved. Or John Boehner. Or Mitch McConnell. You know, all the “conservatives” who were groveling at the obama feet. Along with Trump.


268 posted on 09/24/2015 12:14:03 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: entropy12

All this for a damn flag?!

269 posted on 09/24/2015 12:17:50 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
That was 04, The first I heard of the bamster was his speech to the dem convention the same year he beat Keyes. He sounded sane, sounded moderate in that speech.

I didn't know about his record and history until the year he won the nomination.

Like I said, early on I didn't want to believe the face of evil in our time was really the US president.

Yet.

Didn't take long after to have my hopes of a Clintonian moderation dashed.

270 posted on 09/24/2015 12:24:11 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: entropy12
Here is my comment to someone assailing Trump for the 2009 comment, here yesterday (#158):

"It is ridiculous that you focus on something said six years ago, with reference to a foreign policy initiative, without pointing out that Trump clearly woke up about Obama, long before he entered the present Presidential race. Have you forgotten his effort to expose Obama's credentials during the intervening years?

"If we cannot work with people who once were wrong, we cannot simply put together the numbers to ever win.

"Wake up. We are in a desperate fight to save the American heritage. Trump recognized that Bush had damaged it, by a bull in a china-closet foreign policy. A great many of us share Trump's attitude on that.

"No, we recognized long before his election that Obama was an enemy to our heritage. Trump did not wake up as early on that. You need to wake up, now, to the fact that his attack on being "politically correct," has immensely helped the ongoing cause of trying to retain an American future."

271 posted on 09/24/2015 12:26:39 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: entropy12

Sorry for a typo. The quoted comment from yesterday was #168, not #158.


272 posted on 09/24/2015 12:34:02 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: C. Edmund Wright
There was not a living soul in the United States in 2007-2008 period who was more anti-Obama than me. For 2 reasons, I spent 35+ years living in Chicago and actually was active democrat in 1960's. I know Chicago democrats better than anyone.

Second reason being Obama's Muslim background. His father was a devout Muslim, and also his step-father in Indonesia. I know exactly how that would influence a child in his formative years. Because I grew up in a predominantly Muslim area of India, and my childhood pals were Muslim kids. I have seen first hand how Muslims think.

However, I was willing to give the newly elected president on inauguration day, a fair shot at looking after interest of ALL Americans, and not just those who voted for him. I will not disparage anyone who did the same, including Donald Trump.

However if Trump had continued to sing Obama's praises after finishing first term, I would have no use for Trump. But to his credit, Trump in his book published in 2011, "Time to get Tough" says the following:

"Obamacare is a 2733 page monstrosity which is killing jobs, destroying healthcare system, with skyrocketing premiums, destroying patient choice, and exploding spending."

"Obama has admitted that Cap and Tax would drive energy prices sky high"

"Obama has blown trillions of our tax dollars on his 'stimulus' schemes while he wants to cut $400 Billion from defense budget"

"The greatest outrage is Obama's unwillingness to stand strong in face of Iran's nuclear ambitions"

273 posted on 09/24/2015 1:04:12 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors! Trump has no rich donors)
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To: Ohioan

Very good post.


274 posted on 09/24/2015 1:04:50 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors! Trump has no rich donors)
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To: entropy12; C. Edmund Wright; Servant of the Cross
"The point of debate is....should Americans unite behind a newly elected president, or begin the divide immediately. Even a socialist community organizer deserves benefit of doubt that he will evolve and do what would be best for all Americans."

There is no debate. If the president is a destructive leftwinger, as we knew was the case with Obama, the divide is there from the beginning; no need to "begin" it. We have nothing in common with the left. There's no point in playing nice, and in fact, it's a dangerous weakness.

Your socialist community organizer made his true nature known early on, so tell me why you think he deserved the benefit of the doubt that he would "evolve."

If you're that naive, you shouldn't be voting.

But that isn't precisely the case here. Your gymnastics are based not on naivete, but on your need to try and find a way to excuse liberal Donald Trump. AGAIN.

"For example if Ted Cruz gets elected president in 2016, would Hillary be wise to wish him success on the first day in office or immediately start calling him a right wing extremist?"

You surely don't think Clinton would wish Cruz well, and you must, by now, understand the blackly evil nature of the left.

You're just struggling to create some justification for Trump.

"If Trump had continued to praise Obama after first term, then Trump should be disparaged, justifiably. But to regurgitate a statement made by Trump 8 years ago, on first day of office of the newly elected president, and disparage Trump for it is unpatriotic, unfair and smacks of desperation by supporters of some other candidate who is failing to resonate with voters."

Trump can be justifiably disparaged for a lot of things, considering his history of liberalism...and the liberalism that he frequently reveals even now.

Sorry, entropy, but I'm not buying the excuses. This is all part of vetting a candidate, no matter how much you dislike it.

275 posted on 09/24/2015 3:40:24 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: CatherineofAragon; entropy12; Servant of the Cross
There is no debate. If the president is a destructive leftwinger, as we knew was the case with Obama, the divide is there from the beginning; no need to "begin" it. We have nothing in common with the left. There's no point in playing nice, and in fact, it's a dangerous weakness.

Your socialist community organizer made his true nature known early on, so tell me why you think he deserved the benefit of the doubt that he would "evolve." If you're that naive, you shouldn't be voting.

But that isn't precisely the case here. Your gymnastics are based not on naivete, but on your need to try and find a way to excuse liberal Donald Trump. AGAIN.

Every word 100% correct, and I too don't buy entropy is that naive and foolish, nor do I even buy he thinks a man that naive and foolish just 5 years ago should be President. But the mental gymnastics are part of the cult adherence.

276 posted on 09/24/2015 5:02:53 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: demshateGod

In your dreams.


277 posted on 09/24/2015 5:03:47 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham

My prayers too, but since God’s design is probably to destroy America for wanton sin, Trump will probably be the nominee.


278 posted on 09/24/2015 5:08:52 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Ohioan

you clearly have lower standards than I do....


279 posted on 09/24/2015 5:51:04 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: C. Edmund Wright; CatherineofAragon

Best luck to whichever candidate you are supporting, so long it is not a democrat.

I am thoroughly enjoying this primary campaign, knowing the candidate I am supporting has topped EVERY poll since he declared. I am sure you would also be having as much fun as I am having if your candidate topped all the polls. Do you agree?


280 posted on 09/24/2015 5:58:23 PM PDT by entropy12 (When you vote for a candidate, you are actually voting for his rich donors! Trump has no rich donors)
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