Posted on 09/17/2015 5:22:28 PM PDT by jimbo123
Carly Fiorina is the new "it" candidate in the Republican presidential field, following a second straight sterling debate performance at the Ronald Reagan presidential library Wednesday night.
But there was a moment in the debate that previewed a major potential weakness for Fiorina. It came when moderator Jake Tapper noted that Donald Trump had said Fiorina "ran HP into the ground" during her time as CEO. Fiorina responded, "I led Hewlett Packard through a very difficult time, the worst technology recession in 25 years," adding: "We had to make tough choices, and in doing so, we saved 80,000 jobs, went on to grow to 160,000 jobs."
Trump -- and Tapper -- largely let the issue drop. But Fiorina's past political history suggests that her struggles at HP could be a campaign killer.
In 2010, Fiorina was running surprisingly close to California Sen. Barbara Boxer (D), who was struggling in a strong election cycle for Republicans nationally. Then, Boxer ran this ad focused on Fiorina's time at the helm of HP.
The commercial notes that Fiorina laid off 30,000 workers at HP while feathering her own nest (the ad's narrator says she tripled her salary) and buying a "million-dollar yacht" and "five corporate jets." It went up on TV in the middle of September and effectively ended Fiorina's chances.
Look at this chart, via Real Clear Politics, documenting the polling averages for the entirety of the Boxer-Fiorina contest.
See how the red line starts dropping precipitously right around mid-September? That's not a coincidence. The ad functioned as a sort of knock-out punch for Boxer even in a year where Republicans claimed victories all across the country.
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It's a good question that deserves a specific answer.
Not an answer, but on the same subject:
http://www.breitbart.com/california/2015/09/16/hp-dumps-30000-jobs-still-cranking-h1b-immigrants/
You really think they won’t run similar ads against Trump?
“I’ll tell you what. Fiorina talks as tough or tougher than everyone’s hero, Trump, AND she knows what she’s talking about to boot.”
As someone who has worked for Florina and talked to her one on one, I have a different prospective than you do. I would never vote for her, even for dog catcher...
As a life long conservative, Clinton would be better than her.
Most of the other HP employees would agree...
I won't say who, but the bank I work for had six DEC VAX machines clustered across two data centers as recently as May of 2008.
Yes, I know --- that's a full 14 years or so after damn' near everyone else got off of them.
HP charged the bank I work for almost $1,000,000/yr for a hardware and software support contract on a device that they could no longer obtain parts for themselves. The bank then paid just about another $750k/yr for "consultants" to baby sit the damn' thing. That's literally all they did.
I started working at the bank I'm currently at in March of 2007. My role when I started was to develop and implement a technology risk framework for the hardware, software and applications the bank ran. That technology risk framework had five major categories, one of which was "brand/reputation damage" and the other was "regulatory/compliance."
Within 30 days of introducing the framework (which I'd developed and published prior to working at this bank) I obtained funding to eliminate the DEC VAX platform and the 135 applications that still ran on it because someone finally told the bank in real terms, what would happen to their reputation if it ever came to light that an outage or loss of customer information/funds happened because of a platform they should've retired 14 years prior, they'd lose customers and face the regulator's wrath.
The entire project to retire the damn' thing was $1.65 million and took 8 months to complete. That meant the project paid itself off almost immediately upon completion.
The funny thing is, Bankers are notoriously slow to change technologies. They very much have a "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" attitude about technology.
One such business banker who oversaw the project from a business partner perspective just seemed hell bent on killing the project from the get-go, but I was ready for him.
On a friday afternoon, he called a meeting and demanded we stop "wasting money" retiring the DEC VAX. Apparently, the damn' thing was his baby.
My response was very simple and I was ready for him. I'd already worked with our Finance folks to figure out how much money the bank WASTED over the 14 years that the bank kept the DEC VAX running while everyone else had moved off the platform.
The total using net present value of money, was north of $36 million dollars that the bank wasted, which could've been better spent by retiring it when they should've, and modernized other systems and lifecycled out legacy hardware.
I'm still at the bank. That banker/business partner left in 2009.
You can guess who won that battle.
Funny thing is, I'm almost always successful getting what I want done at the bank because I know the fastest way to make change in an expense constrained environment like a bank, is to show how they're wasting money, and calculate the net present value of that money if they do NOTHING.
That strategy has worked flawlessly for me the last 8.5 years I've been at this bank.
Thanks for the info—and ammo—to shoot the tires off the “let’s support Carly” bandwagon!
Think I’mma stick with the boss man’s opinion.
:)
Printer ink is more expensive than Gold.
eBay usually has generic cartridges that are less costly and work just as well.
Once you find a good vendor/supplier, stick with it.
Thank you for the excellent counsel.
Can't go wrong doing that! Although I'm not a toady, my experience since visiting Free Republic on a daily basis since September 16, 2001, fourteen years a day ago, is that JimRob has a lot of analytical experience in the realm of politics -- more than I can ever hope to have. He's friends with some of the big players in the game. Therefore, his thoughts are to be valued. As a case in point, he exposed the truth about Rudy Giuliani long before most FReepers caught onto him.
Our Jim may not always be right, but he's never wrong! :)
Wait until they talk about Lucent.
I had more respect for Michael Here, the turnaround manager who replaced her at HP.
Van Jones likes her only because he knows she’ll be a cakewalk to beat in the election. Her record at HP is absolutely fatal poison.
Not to mention, she was picked to run in California because she was a liberal Republican to begin with. She will lose the base in half the country and be killed by her record of outsourcing to China in the other half.
She is the absolute least electable candidate out of all 11 in that debate, even less electable than Bush.
False. Arnold won. Normally a liberal Republican like Fia-RINO can win. But with her abysmal record of outsourcing jobs to China, which both the conservative base and the liberal union base despise.
Fia-RINO is Romney in drag, except for being far more liberal on immigration policy.
No, she’s William Hurt, in drag.
Go look.
:)
That said, I don't fault anyone for not wanting to buy a UAW built car. Unless they're Democrats that is, because they are on the same side. I laugh at all of those foreign cars with Obama stickers on them.
If she's as good as many seem to think. then she knew she was on a sinking ship and robbed the staterooms before hitting the escape hatch.
Fiorina said she would have voted for Sonia Sotomayor for the Supreme court,two weeks after 9/11 she said in a speech that Islam was a great civilization
Arnold was POTUS?
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