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Kentucky should simply pass a law similar to North Carolina in order to avoid any more court cases.
1 posted on 09/08/2015 2:35:00 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Lookout 10th Amendment.


2 posted on 09/08/2015 2:36:17 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SeekAndFind

Some people prefer doing what is right rather than what is hip.


3 posted on 09/08/2015 2:36:40 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Cecil the Lion says, Stop the Slaughter of the Baby Humans!!!)
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Get biddy Kintuck.


4 posted on 09/08/2015 2:41:52 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bump!


5 posted on 09/08/2015 2:41:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, but when the first sentence of an article is deeply flawed and is patently false; I tend to disregard the rest of the article.


6 posted on 09/08/2015 2:42:04 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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The story says they are not performing marriages.

Sounds like sexuality is not an issue. They’re just not performing marriages, period.

I don’t think that marrying couples is a mandated duty for a judge, whose responsibilities are primarily in the courtroom. Performing marriages may be optional, and these judges opted out. It is not their main job.

That’s the differences between these judges and the county clerk issue.

For a county clerk, issuing licenses IS a primary duty.

I’m solidly on the Kentucky clerk’s side in refusing to be involved in same-sex marriage, but she has no power to change law. Her only recourse, honestly, is to resign and find a job that doesn’t require her to do unholy things.


7 posted on 09/08/2015 2:43:56 PM PDT by Jedidah
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This seems somewhat similar to what the judge in Oregon is doing. He too (IIRC), opted out of performing marriages altogether, so as not to bring himself into a position where he might be faced with a situation that conflicted with his religious beliefs. This was by choice, rather than statute (performing marriage is (again, IIRC), an optional, rather than a required, duty for Oregon judges)

Naturally, the local gay activist group bigwig claimed it suggested this particular judge’s decision could be evidence of bias against gay defendants in any possible legal case. It’s not enough to take yourself out of the situation, it’s embrace 100% or be vilified as an enemy when you’re dealing with activists.


9 posted on 09/08/2015 2:44:21 PM PDT by DemforBush (Ex-Democrat, and NOT for Jeb. Just so we're *perfectly* clear this time.)
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I>"But they’re not likely to suffer the fate of Kim Davis, the Tennessee county clerk who was recently jailed for her refusal."

Is there more than one county clerk named Kim Davis?

10 posted on 09/08/2015 2:45:06 PM PDT by Redbob (Keep your hands off my great-great-grandfather's flag)
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And people said nullification doesn’t work...


11 posted on 09/08/2015 2:45:48 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (It's time to repeal and replace the GOP)
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The clerks asked them to do that 6 months ago. The dem Governor and House refused. Next election in My should be interesting.


15 posted on 09/08/2015 2:53:31 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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...the Supreme Court’s June decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, which held that same-sex marriage is a constitutionally guaranteed right

While the courts can interpret laws to create a right to marriage, there is one thing that the courts can NEVER do.

The courts can NEVER guarantee that, same-sex marriages will ever be the same as a marriage between a man and a woman. They can pretend to be equal under the law, but, in society and in cultures, they will never be thought of as equal. A 'right under the law' is not the same as the right to be thought of as the same or perceived as the same. Courts cannot legislate that all people view same-sex marriages as equal to man/woman marriages. IN fact, neither can legislatures.
16 posted on 09/08/2015 2:54:03 PM PDT by adorno (w)
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It’s already legal, IMHO, in Kentucky and anywhere else that has a state Constitution and law defining such weddings as not legal.

The US Constitution does not address marriage. The 10th amendment to the US Constitution indicates very clearly that anything not addressed in the Constitution is left to the states or the people.

The woman in Kentucky is following Kentucky State law according to the Kentucky constitution.

Since it is not referred to or present in the U.S. Constitution, IMHO, the Supreme Court should have no standing in it...this issue is left, by constitutional decree, to the states.

Until the 10th amendment is either overturned, or another amendment alters it...the case should be closed in terms of the Supreme Court.


17 posted on 09/08/2015 2:54:19 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Top Kentucky Senate leaders asked the judge to stay the order until they could call a special session to pass a similar law. However, they say that the governor has refused to call the special session, and it would have to wait for the next regular session.

-PJ

18 posted on 09/08/2015 2:54:22 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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Kentucky should simply pass a law similar to North Carolina in order to avoid any more court cases

Yes and states should refuse to abide by any future federal & USSC rulings where the Constitution of the United States does not give them specific authority to rule in because it is a power of state not the federal government.

USSC Rulings as well as federal courts should be limited to specific case which are the Constitutionally given the federal government and not be instead creating general law by judicial fiat.

Kasich was on TV a few minutes ago {i was at my moms and saw it} saying gay marriage was the law of the land} What part of the United States Constitution does he not understand or has nor read? Marriage is not a federal licensed act nor does it fall under the authority of congress, federal courts, nor POTUS to oversee and rule on. No such power was given them. If they assume such authority and use it then they violate their sworn oath.

21 posted on 09/08/2015 2:57:30 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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Thank you for referencing that article SeekAndFind. As usual, please bear in mind that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

”… since the U.S. Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriages in all 50 states."

FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

Activist justices not only wrongly ignored the unique, constitutional Article V power of the states to establish new rights by amending the Constitution to expressly protect specific rights, but also consider the following.

The justices also stole unique, 10th Amendment-protected power to regulate marriage to legislate the fictitious right to gay “marriage” from the bench. (Justices did the same thing to establish the so-called right to have an abortion imo.)

And justices boldly established the so-called right to gay marriage outside the framework of the Constitution because they are undoubtedly confident that the corrupt, post-17th Amendment ratification Senate will not do its job to protect the states as the Founding States had intended for the Senate to do, in this case by working with the House to impeach and remove such justices from the bench.

The ill-conceived 17th Amendment needs to disappear, and corrupt senators and the activist justices that they confirm and then refuse to remove from the bench as well.

25 posted on 09/08/2015 3:14:29 PM PDT by Amendment10
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They already have.

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=17446

The Judge ignored all facts of law, and put a Christian in jail because of her beliefs.
No other reason.


26 posted on 09/08/2015 3:16:19 PM PDT by rikkir (You can lead a horde to knowledge but you can't make them think. (TnkU ctdonath2))
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We have JoPs refusing in my county, as well, but so far a bizarre reluctance on the part of our legislators to pass a state law.
Just wibbly-wobbly verbal assurances that nobody’s gonna lose their jobs, and prayers that the homonazis will just make nice and take their demands elsewhere.


29 posted on 09/08/2015 3:52:41 PM PDT by mumblypeg (I've seen the future; brother it is murder. -L. Cohen)
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Probably a lot of people will bow out of government service, since it is no longer in sync with the Judeo-Christian framework.

The burning question: Who is going to run it? The hipsters? Yuppies? Anyone?

(Crickets chirping.)


33 posted on 09/08/2015 4:36:16 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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I see Kentucky has overwhelmingly overridden Beshears Veto and passed Religious Freedom protection. If only Colorado wold put down the hash pipe and follow suite.


34 posted on 09/08/2015 4:57:23 PM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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...since the U.S. Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriages in all 50 states.

Premise is incorrect. The court can't legalize anything. What they said was the states can't restrict marriage. It still takes legislative action to change the laws to deal with marriage actions.

35 posted on 09/08/2015 5:37:29 PM PDT by Bobby_Taxpayer
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