Posted on 09/01/2015 2:27:11 PM PDT by Zakeet
Monday night at the GLACIER Conference in Anchorage, AK, President Barack Obama attempted to isolate those who question whether climate change is man-made saying they are on their own shrinking island.
Obama said, We know human activity is changing the climate that is beyond dispute. Everything else is politics.
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"The time to plead ignorance is surely past.
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CO2 is rising now, when did the temperatures rise? The nearest I can tell the lag is 500-1000 years, so the rise from the Dark Ages Cold Period to the Medieval Warm Period would be the relevant rise. But that rise only caused about 5-10ppm of CO2 rise at most.
Currently CO2 is rising 2-3 ppm every year. If that was caused by past warming, there must have been warming centuries ago at the rate of 0.2 to 0.3 C per year using the ratio of 100ppm for 10C in the chart above.
If past warming is not causing the current rise, then something else is. Volcanoes are not a very large source contributing about 1/100 of what fossil fuel burning and other human sources contribute. If the current rise is caused by vegetation changes, then we need to explain why the CO2 rises and falls by 10ppm every season
That rise is when vegetation decays and releases CO2 in fall and winter and that fall is when vegetation grows in the spring and summer in the northern hemisphere (with a little lag).
What the liars say is that mankind is causing dangerous global warming. It is scientifically unknown how much warming is natural and how much is manmade. But all the warming is beneficial.
If it does what it appears like it's going to do it's going to get cold. Real cold. And the gods of the CO2 religion are going to freeze in political hell.
I know. I'm worried that it might capsize, like Guam.
Hussein just is not very bright. He can not do the math and the physics is so far beyond his reach it may as well be in the 57th state somewhere.
Not even enough to be out of the range of error.
Says the idiot who thinks The Founding Fathers were all wrong and Karl Marx got things right. I ask Who is the real “Denier”?
I love it !!
I made the mistake of actually telling someone that the C02 levels are only 350 parts per Million !!
Carbon Dioxide.
She went off on me saying that I was wrong and angrily insisted that the issue was "Carbon Monoxide". I kid you not.
Most of these people are absolutely clueless.
But very passionate.
I have more recently taken a different approach with certain people. If they express their concerns on "Climate Change", I will make an authoritative statement that virtually all of the environmental movement is centered around the killing off of millions of people. In particular, the Black population in Africa.
Fun stuff.
I figure that these clueless zombies are very very susceptible to Government and Corporate conspiracies and I think it's fun give them another one to think about.
“Denier” is a propaganda term designed to equate global warming skeptics with neo-Nazis in the mind of the public. The only other time it’s ever used is holocaust denier. You cannot “deny” something that is predicted to happen 50 years from how. You can either believe the prediction or not. We cannot allow people to make the term common usage. They should be called out every time and demand an apology.
There could be another ice age and these morons would blame it on global warming.
Interesting projection from Obama.
Make her look up the real specs.
“...man produces just 400 ppm CO2...”
I have no doubt that you know MUCH more than I about this, but I’ve read elsewhere that as a trace gas, the 400 ppm figure was total CO2, not the figure attributable to man.
Am I wrong on this?
[[What the liars say is that mankind is causing dangerous global warming.]]
No sir- what the LIARS say is that mankind is ‘almost entirely responsible for’ global climate change” and that they are ‘almost 98% certain” of this claim
[[And the gods of the CO2 religion are going to freeze in political hell]]
Nah- they will simply claim they predicted thuis would happen
Sorry, you are right- I misspoke- The total atmospheric CO2 stands at nearly 400 ppm- From an article dated in 1959, scientists calculated that the atmosphere had back then 2,300 billion tons of CO2 (which calculates out to roughly .03% of the atmosphere). Man being responsible for only 3.4% of that figure
[[Currently CO2 is rising 2-3 ppm every year.]]
Funny how temps have remained flat for 2 decades while CO2 has risen the whole time IF CO2 ‘causes global climate change’
[[CO2 is rising now, when did the temperatures rise?]]
There is some scientific evidence to suggest that CO2 rises 1000’s of years AFTER temps begin to rise- I was being generous by saying ‘many decades’
[[If past warming is not causing the current rise, then something else is.]]
Yep nature is- Remember- man produces just 3.4% of what nature produces- can’t run from this established fact
[[then we need to explain why the CO2 rises and falls by 10ppm every season]]
Because mankind is secretly sneaking it into the atmosphere whiel no one is looking just to confuse the scientists who can’t figure out that man produces just 3.4% of all CO2 in the atmosphere- We send it up in helium filled balloons set to self destruct when it hits the atmosphere leaving behind no trace of foul play-
Either that or hamster farts are causing the rise (while temps continued to remain flat-
No Proof of Man-Made Climate Change, Says Greenpeace Co-founder
[[The IPCC states that humans are the dominant cause of warming “since the mid-20th century,” which is 1950. From 1910 to 1940, there was an increase in global average temperature of 0.5°C over that 30-year period. Then there was a 30-year “pause” until 1970. This was followed by an increase of 0.57°C during the 30-year period from 1970 to 2000. Since then there has been no increase, perhaps a slight decrease, in average global temperature. This in itself tends to negate the validity of the computer models, as CO2 emissions have continued to accelerate during this time.
The increase in temperature between 1910-1940 was virtually identical to the increase between 1970-2000. Yet the IPCC does not attribute the increase from 1910-1940 to “human influence.” They are clear in their belief that human emissions impact only the increase “since the mid-20th century.” Why does the IPCC believe that a virtually identical increase in temperature after 1950 is caused mainly by “human influence” when it has no explanation for the nearly identical increase from 1910-1940?]]
[[In its report on Moore’s testimony, Fox News noted that a United Nations report on the scientific data about climate change released last September acknowledged there had been no increase in global surface temperatures over the previous 15 years. The 2,200-page report attributed that to a number of factors, including reduced heating from the sun and the ocean acting like a “heat sink” to suck up extra warmth in the atmosphere.]]
Not to mention sea ice/glaciers had been GROWING In the decades that CO2 had been rising- it was only until recently when trade winds and current patterns shifted that some usually colder regions rose in temps by a percentage of a degree that glaciers began melting- Underwater volcanos also being responsible for most of the melting in Antarctic that is being blamed on man’s production of CO2
Shall I go on? I’ve got access to reams of evidence that show that DESPITE the constant rise in CO2, temps and sea ice and core samples all show gains- not to mention reams of evidence that debunk the asinine 98% consensus claim, and reams of evidence that show natural causes for MOST EVERYTHING that is beign blamed on man’;s production of CO2
Again we don’t spell it out simple, your sarcasm made it unusable. So...
“What % of the atmosphere is CO2? .00022%
What % of CO2 is manmade? 3.4% (remember that is of .00022%)
How much does the atmosphere weigh? 6 quadrillion tons
How much does manmade CO2 weigh? 3.4 % of .00022% of 6 quadrillion tons- whatever that equals out to
Hope Your Math is correct and that I made it easier for folks to understand. Don’t Care.
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