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Farmers: Trump 'terrible for agriculture'
Politico ^ | 09/01/2015 | Bill Tomson

Posted on 09/01/2015 5:28:18 AM PDT by GIdget2004

Even before real-estate mogul Donald Trump called undocumented immigrants "rapists and murderers" who "have to go," California contractor Carlos Castañeda was having difficulty hiring enough workers to pick celery and squash.

Now Castañeda and others fear Trump's talk about erecting a "big beautiful wall" at the border and deporting millions could make it near impossible to find the guest workers they need, and who would obtain legal status under most comprehensive reforms bills.

"There are growers out there screaming for labor," said Castañeda, a farm labor contractor in San Luis Obispo County in central California. "The people who are coming in are doing the work that not a single American would like to do."

Trump's brash talk about stopping undocumented immigration has excited GOP primary voters, turbocharged his campaign and spurred similar get-tough pledges from several rivals, including Sen. Ted Cruz and Gov. Scott Walker. But the view from many conservative-leaning agricultural communities is disgust, bordering on dread. Farmers say the candidate’s pronouncements have exacerbated already difficult labor shortages and brought counterproductive political attention to issues they had hoped to resolve quietly in Congress through legislation overhauling the nation’s broken guest-worker program.

Many say they will do everything in their power to educate the public about why Trump’s positions jeopardize their livelihoods — and the nation’s access to fresh fruit and vegetables.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: farmers; guestworkers; illegals; immigration; trump
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To: Tulane

“Trump is for higher taxes. No thank you.”

Please explain. That is not at ALL what I have repeatedly seen.


21 posted on 09/01/2015 5:48:56 AM PDT by battletank
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To: ozarkgirl

Well, another part to that lie...they also are taking jobs that Americans would love to do....drywall, construction etc.


22 posted on 09/01/2015 5:49:54 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republican Freed the Slaves" month.)
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To: freespirit2012

just realize what you are doing to your own food prices......probably doubling fruits and vegetable prices. And be willing to go to the fields yourself. I’m sure all the unemployed hipsters at Starbucks living on government handouts in mama’s basement will rush out there.....for maybe 50 bucks an hour.

I mean, that is, if you’re interested in being intellectually honest about this.


23 posted on 09/01/2015 5:54:44 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: GIdget2004

Waaaaaah. I won’t be able to keep my labor costs low by breaking the law anymore. Sniff.


24 posted on 09/01/2015 5:56:37 AM PDT by DesertSapper (Becoming more libertarian (small 'l') by the day)
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To: ozarkgirl

I’ve worked in a chickenfeed plant. Now, that’s a story.


25 posted on 09/01/2015 5:56:46 AM PDT by ebshumidors
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To: GIdget2004

Getting rid of the EPA would help farmers. They will find a way to harvest the fields after the wall is built.

Pray America is waking


26 posted on 09/01/2015 6:02:53 AM PDT by bray (Trump and Cruz to the White House)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Ok, you are so far off it is insane. Labor per head of lettuce is 15 cents per head. That is at $15/hr.

Ref: 2011 Cost of Producing Head Lettuce in High Tunnels in Western Washington

27 posted on 09/01/2015 6:04:49 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Oh come on. These farmers pay the illegals below minimum wage (cash). This is after the farmers already get subsidies themselves from the government. Since the illegals get paid cash, they have no income to show, and get all the goodies they can from the government.

So the tax payer gets to pay for the farm subsidies and the welfare, so that the farmer can hire cheap labor. Sounds like a sweet deal for the farmer. The tax payer, not so much.

If it means booting the illegals out, I’ll pick my own damned food thank you very much.


28 posted on 09/01/2015 6:07:13 AM PDT by skippyjonjones
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To: GIdget2004
Farmers: Trump 'terrible for the continuation of the government gravy train at the expense of the American taxpayer'

There, title fixed. This is what they really mean

29 posted on 09/01/2015 6:08:36 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Almighty Jehovah, deliver us from this evil, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: GIdget2004

I can’t believe it.
In a country that implemented ObamaCare and gay marriage..now suddenly were a nation of ‘can’t do’s”
Come on Farmers!
If a trans-whatever can be hired at the Casa Blanca than surely you can figure out a solution?
If we can make deals that allows Iran to get the nuke than this ought to be childs play?
If Faggakhan, BlackLivesmurder, the Black Pansies Party can step up, with the blessings of king ‘butthole’ ibama, and call for the death of whitey and cops.
If Hillary can escape jail time.
If the GOPe can endorse Jeb Bush, Mitt Romney, John McCain

Then someone tell me what isn’t possible in America?

This is America! Home of the Clintons and Obamas. This is the confiscated lands of the Federal Government. Don’t tell me Ameri-can’t!


30 posted on 09/01/2015 6:12:09 AM PDT by Leep (Cut the crap!)
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To: GIdget2004
"The people who are coming in are doing the work that not a single American would like to do."

If I see this lie one more time.....

31 posted on 09/01/2015 6:15:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: skippyjonjones

All I’m doing is saying that when the cost of producing goods go up, it’s not like it all comes out of the profits of the producer....it comes out of the pockets of consumers. That’s the extent of my point.

A few questions few seem interested in answering are these:
A: Is making America Great Again mean that our citizens have to do the bottom of the barrell jobs?
B: Or, do we think that somehow we can magically float with an economy with nothing but good jobs? You think we don’t need the awful jobs to be filled?
C: Do you or anyone you know want these jobs?
D: Are you too gutless to admit that it is us, the consumer, who ALSO benefits from low cost labor?

I’m not advocating a position here. I’m simply saying we need to understand fully what we are asking for. I see little evidence we do.


32 posted on 09/01/2015 6:18:42 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: central_va

go pick some lettuce and STFU.


33 posted on 09/01/2015 6:19:16 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: MrB

That’s what they used to do when the laws were enforced.


34 posted on 09/01/2015 6:20:44 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: GIdget2004

It’s not just the harvest. When Trump places tariffs on imports to the U.S. then every other country will place tariffs on our exports to them. That includes a lot of agricultural produce - wheat, corn, soybeans, cotton, etc. I expect U.S. farmers will see their overseas markets dry up pretty quickly.


35 posted on 09/01/2015 6:21:27 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Pricks like you can't get away with making stuff up when the truth is just a click away you < expletive deleted >.


36 posted on 09/01/2015 6:22:42 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GIdget2004

California farmers: The new slave holders

Why hire a legal worker for minimum wage when you can pay an illegal worker an illegal wage ($3/hour)?


37 posted on 09/01/2015 6:24:04 AM PDT by kidd
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To: DoodleDawg
every other country will place tariffs on our exports to them.

THEY ALREADY DO.

38 posted on 09/01/2015 6:24:10 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: GIdget2004

In a free market this farmer would have to raise what he is willing to pay “legal” workers until he gets the workers he needs. He would then pass the added cost onto consumers.


39 posted on 09/01/2015 6:27:22 AM PDT by McGruff (Trump/Cruz 2016 - My Dream Team)
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To: Catsrus
Yes.

And once you hire some illegals they will attack any legal workers you hire. So then you get to whine that no legals will work for you.

40 posted on 09/01/2015 6:28:32 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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