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Conservatives provide a reality check on Donald Trump's mass deportation plan
Examiner ^ | August 22, 2015 | Mark Whittington

Posted on 08/23/2015 12:07:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Ever since Donald Trump, the mercurial businessman, media personality, and presidential candidate, proposed his immigration policy, centering on the mass deportation of up to 11 million human beings, reaction among conservatives has been decidedly mixed. Ann Coulter, for whom illegal immigration is the alpha and the omega of public policy, exalted that Trump could perform abortions in the White House, and she would not care. But Charles Krauthammer, writing in the National Review on Thursday, and George Will, in his latest column published Saturday, provided reality checks.

Krauthammer wondered what the practical political effects would be of reenacting the Trail of Tears on a mass scale would be on the Republican Party, poised as it is on the edge of its greatest victory since 1980. His answer is not very hopeful.

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Will, on the other hand, concentrates on how big government would have to grow to implement Trump’s plan.

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............. Even Ted Cruz, no slouch where it comes to illegal immigration, realizes that this would require a constitutional amendment, a dubious prospect at best.

The upshot is that there exist practical ways of dealing with illegal immigration that most people would not find abhorrent. These include securing the borders with a wall, cracking down on people who overstay their visas, eliminating the abuse of H1-B work visas where some companies are replacing American workers with cheaper foreign workers, and dealing with the illegals that are already here in some way that is not as obnoxious as mass deportation and not as craven as amnesty. Trump’s proposal, at least according to Krauthammer and Will, would likely lead to a liberal president who would enact mass amnesty, creating millions of Democratic voters that would reduce the Republican Party to permenant minority status.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: New York; US: Wisconsin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This is politics; Cruz (your candidate) is not beneath doing what it takes. So please, get off your high horse. Since you say you aren't a Trump supporter (so it's the usual anti-Walker posting that has brought you here) and since you have posted anti-Walker threads, let me drop this information about your candidate.

“...And, for the party’s top donors, who hear pleas from all corners, “it’s more than some of these other candidates have for a path to victory,” says a GOP strategist familiar with Cruz’s pitch. As for those dreaded consultants the senator so often maligns, he’s not beyond their reach.

The Cruz campaign has paid Axiom Strategies, the consulting firm owned by Cruz’s campaign manager, Jeff Roe, about $30,000 a month. A spokesman for the campaign says that fee covers Roe’s salary as well as those of three other campaign staffers. J2 Strategic Communications, the firm established by Cruz’s senior adviser, Jason Johnson, is also paid $20,000 a month for campaign work, which a Cruz spokesman says is the closest their operation comes to a traditional campaign-consultant relationship.

One of Roe’s former clients was former Texas lieutenant governor David Dewhurst, the establishment candidate defeated in a 2012 Senate bid by political upstart Ted Cruz.

That’s how quickly friends of the Republican establishment can become foes, and vice versa. Now, Cruz is hoping for a similar transformation if he manages to make his renegade brand that of the Republican standard-bearer. Source

21 posted on 08/23/2015 12:54:48 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Like I said...


22 posted on 08/23/2015 12:55:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Weak sauce. Try harder.


23 posted on 08/23/2015 12:56:15 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
..... Well .... Instead of the standard ..... "Catch and Release"" .... how about we .... "Catch and Deport!!!" like other countries do?
24 posted on 08/23/2015 12:58:23 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Scott Walker has SOLD OUT to the "ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS" and CAN NOT BE TRUSTED !
Scott Walker, is PROVED to be TALKING OUT OF BOTHS SIDES OF THE ISSUE ( you CAN NOT TRUST him ! ).
Watch the videos and READ the article from HOT AIR, most certainly not on your list of band-sources.
Let's keep LOSER Walker in his home state.
We don't need any more SELLOUTS in Washington D.C., and especially in the Oval Office!

25 posted on 08/23/2015 12:58:29 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Didn't Mark Whittington used to be an editorial writer for the Houston Chronicle?
26 posted on 08/23/2015 1:02:46 AM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Put Walker in charge of hamstringing the Federal Workers Union..
as laws are passed to make it ILLEGAL.. and disbanded.. OR JAIL for YOU..

In the Cruz Administration.. TRUMP will only increase the size and scope of federal givernment..

Sure it may be a bit more “competent” but STILL HUMONGUS..


27 posted on 08/23/2015 1:07:11 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited (specifically) to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: Yosemitest

You’re an excellent weather vein telling me I’ve posted something worthwhile, whenever you post that spam.


28 posted on 08/23/2015 1:08:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Yosemitest

You can call Walker names all you want but loser is not one of them. What he accomplished against the communist left in Wisconsin was miraculous... and he did it without making donations to the Clinton Foundation and Harry Reid.


29 posted on 08/23/2015 1:09:15 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: okie01

I don’t know. His stuff comes up at different places. He lives in the Houston area.


30 posted on 08/23/2015 1:09:46 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All

In a related thread, an anti-Trump author complained that Trump’s mass deportation plan will cost $165 billion plus or minus a couple of billion. (I don’t remember the exact figure.)

How awfull! /s

But to put the $165 billion into perspective, not only is it a drop in the bucket compared with the trillions that the currupt Washington cartel has scandalously put the country into debt for, but also consider the following.

How much are the unconstitutional federal welfare services that the post-17th Amendment ratification Senate is helping the House to provide for 11 million illegals costing taxpayers per year? I suspect that Trump’s $165 billion to send them home might prove to be a bargain in the long run with respect to what it is costing taxpayers to let them stay in the USA.

Insights welcome.


31 posted on 08/23/2015 1:11:09 AM PDT by Amendment10
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sen. Cruz Presents Measure to Strengthen, Improve Legal Immigration ~ Offers amendment to increase H-1B visas to help improve, retain high-skilled labor force ~
32 posted on 08/23/2015 1:12:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Trump’s proposal, at least according to Krauthammer and Will, would likely lead to a liberal president who would enact mass amnesty, creating millions of Democratic voters

So, instead, they want to skip Trump's presidency and jump immediately ahead to a president who will do exactly that.

33 posted on 08/23/2015 1:14:20 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Having Will and Krauthammer determine the principles of conservatism (including the Sessions stamped immigration plan) is akin to Ahmadinejad being the torch bearer of Judaism...disgusting.


34 posted on 08/23/2015 1:15:19 AM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: Amendment10

Your point is well taken.

That’s precisely why Scott Walker’s been taking funding away from Leftist institutions and Democrat bosses.

Money is what fuels their power.


35 posted on 08/23/2015 1:16:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Amendment10

Covered in other threads and yeah, we’ll make that back in about 2 years after cutting the illegals off the dole.


36 posted on 08/23/2015 1:18:29 AM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: Kaosinla

Really?

No one is saying they’re the determiners. They’re giving their take.

They’re political observers and pundits.

Make your counter case.


37 posted on 08/23/2015 1:18:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: piasa
WHOI Walker was THEN ... and WHO Walker is NOW .... is 2 ENTIRELY DIFFERENT VALUES !
38 posted on 08/23/2015 1:24:26 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Charles Krauthammer and George Will are NOT "conservatives".

Krauthammer voted for Carter and Mondale against Reagan, and was a speechwriter for Mondale. Um, kinda liberal.

George Will bashed Reagan relentlessly in the pages of the WSJ in 1979-80. Um, kinda RINO.

"NOT Conservative"

39 posted on 08/23/2015 1:25:15 AM PDT by montag813 (Bring Back Tar and Feathers)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And?


40 posted on 08/23/2015 1:25:57 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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