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Donald Trump vs. Fox News: ‘I got you the highest debate ratings in your history’
CNN Money Article on wtvr.com ^ | 8/7/2015 | CNN Money

Posted on 08/07/2015 4:06:39 PM PDT by GoneSalt

Trump’s battles with Kelly will probably further burnish the anchorwoman’s reputation as a tough-as-nails television star. The conservative cable news channel has sought to market Kelly as a strong and independent voice.

Inside Fox, the view at the end of the debate was that all three moderators — Kelly, Bret Baier and Chris Wallace — had fared well, and that Kelly was the stand-out.

Some political observers said that Fox’s post-debate coverage seemed tilted against Trump, partly because of a Frank Luntz focus group, convened by Fox and televised immediately after the debate, that had an anti-Trump tone.

Trump was incensed by the focus group.

“Where did you find that dumb panel” he asked Luntz via Twitter.

He also tweeted that Luntz is “a low class slob who came to my office looking for consulting work and I had zero interest. Now he picks anti-Trump panels!”

(Excerpt) Read more at wtvr.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: facebook; fox; trump
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To: Calpublican

Fox news agrees with McCain. The voters are idiots. And if they don’t elect a rino or a liberal they’re too stupid to even vote. The media is part of the elites. They all party together and look down on us peons.


121 posted on 08/07/2015 6:03:18 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: Windflier

I’ve never seen a Luntz panel that had any credibility. You can always tell a certain amount of them are lying.


122 posted on 08/07/2015 6:05:27 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: olezip

I have to admit it’s funny that Trump retweeted the “Bimbo” tweet after she accused him of being part of the fake war on women. Apparently he doesn’t give a damn what she thinks.


123 posted on 08/07/2015 6:12:04 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: WHATNEXT?
Freepers, he is NOT the person for the job and you know it.

What I know is that, I seem to be witnessing the same type of irrational attacks against another champion of American greatness - just like I witnessed here when Sarah Palin was regularly raked over the coals by supposed 'conservative' Freepers.

I and others fought back that tide of Palin Derangement Syndrome for years. It wasn't until it appeared that she was finally retired from politics - and no longer a real threat to the establishment - that the attacks against her on Free Republic finally settled down.

Trump is an admittedly imperfect standard bearer for the conservative cause, but he's a helluva lot closer to we conservatives than most in the GOP establishment, let alone, the Dems. He's a fighter with a lifelong track record of WINNING, and who's determined to see this country restored to its true greatness.

If you ask me, we could do a whole lot worse than having a successful outsider, a natural CEO, who knows how to run a tight ship, and who loves his country, than Donald Trump.

124 posted on 08/07/2015 6:12:33 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: GoneSalt

The conservative cable news channel....

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FAUX News conservative? Uh, no.


125 posted on 08/07/2015 6:12:44 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: All

Trump told the world that he bought Hillary and she had to come to his wedding because she’s for sale. I’d love to see him debate her and ask her “How much money have I given you? I’ve lost count.”


126 posted on 08/07/2015 6:14:42 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: Windflier

Yeah, I used to like Laura until she trashed Palin.


127 posted on 08/07/2015 6:14:50 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: Windflier

Only an arrogant, egotist in love with themselves would torpedo themselves like she did.


128 posted on 08/07/2015 6:16:13 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: Windflier

So your position is that snap polls on the internet are more accurate than real time focus group reaction tracking?

No wonder you know so much about Nigerian scammers...


129 posted on 08/07/2015 6:16:37 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: TNMOUTH
Or, the internet polls weren’t reflective of the panel.

Huh? You seem to be repeating what I just said.

Are you saying that a small focus group, run by a paid consultant, is more correct in their analysis than that of tens of millions of ordinary commenters from across the entire country?

Blank wall logic.

130 posted on 08/07/2015 6:17:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: EDINVA

Exactly.


131 posted on 08/07/2015 6:18:44 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: Chaguito

I commented to the family before the debate began that her demeanor, and Wallace’s, was like a couple of giddy high school children, knowing that they would soon be able to insult the adults without fear of punishment. Beyond unprofessional, it was adolescent egocentrism.

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Excellent description.


132 posted on 08/07/2015 6:20:31 PM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: sand88
Trump fights back against the evil left and the evil GOPe.
Both parties are literally destroying our Republic.
The time for civil is long past.

Hats off to you, Sand. You couldn't be more right. You've explained the attraction to Donald Trump in a very few (but eloquent) words.

Your comment above is an example of why you're so esteemed on this forum.

133 posted on 08/07/2015 6:22:20 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: dandiegirl

“Yeah, I wonder what the ratings would be if Trump declared he was not going to show up for the next one.”

Or if Trump invited the candidates to a debate at one of his hotels and let FoxNews have the view from the parking lot.


134 posted on 08/07/2015 6:25:24 PM PDT by GoneSalt
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To: mac_truck
So your position is that snap polls on the internet are more accurate than real time focus group reaction tracking?

Engage your brain and process simple facts:

Focus Group: A few dozen citizens, carefully selected by an even smaller group of political mavens/operatives who run the entire process in a micromanagement style.

Internet Poll: A multiple choice questionnaire open to anyone who wishes to participate via their computer or phone. Responses and participants are not tracked or monitored by the hosts, and can run into the many thousands.

If multiple voting is blocked by the hosts, such polls can be extremely illuminating, as they're a very good reflection of broad public opinion.

Small Focus Groups, on the other hand, can be easily manipulated by those managing them, as we've seen far too many times.

You bet I'll trust the anonymous opinions of thousands of people, versus those of a small hand-picked group. Any day of the week.

135 posted on 08/07/2015 6:38:58 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Your comment above is an example of why you're so esteemed on this forum.

You are too generous.

Windflier, you are a much better wordsmith than I.

136 posted on 08/07/2015 6:39:21 PM PDT by sand88 (We can never legislate our way back to Liberty)
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To: sand88
you are a much better wordsmith than I.

Oh, I may be wordy at times, but you're the far better smith. I'm still trying to perfect the thing that you seem to do with ease.

137 posted on 08/07/2015 6:41:41 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: mac_truck
if you have any evidence the focus group wasn’t being honest with their reactions/answers

Are you speaking of this fox Luntz guy with the bleachers full of card carrying GOP groupies?

This like asking Trump if he has proof the extreme corrupt Mexican government aids and abets their endless poor and uneducated to leave for the U.S.

What an ugly farce.

138 posted on 08/07/2015 6:48:49 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Hostage
You can bet they were all high fiving each other until their tweets started humming. They are lower than MSDNC.

Anyone who believes Duntz’s group was not fake, I have a bridge I want to sell.

Pray America is waking

139 posted on 08/07/2015 6:53:01 PM PDT by bray (Cruz to the White House)
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To: Bigg Red
I used to like Laura until she trashed Palin.

Same here, until I heard that cacklefest she had with Ann Coulter. I was actually shocked by the meanness of it.

Mind you, this was also at a time when PDS was running high, and Sarah needed support from everyone on the right. I simply could not believe that two of the brightest stars of the conservative right were shooting Sarah down like that -- on live national radio.

140 posted on 08/07/2015 6:59:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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