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To: Vaquero

Nothing in there about a right to be a volunteer youth pastor for the state.


6 posted on 07/25/2015 12:39:32 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92
Exactly. All of these pastors should tell the state to "F#%& Off!" and let it find some new volunteers.

No need to render anything unto Caesar -- including one second of your time as a volunteer -- that is not Caesar's.

9 posted on 07/25/2015 12:41:59 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It doesn't work for me. I gotta have more cowbell!")
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To: Bryanw92

Nothing in there allows the state to infringe upon a pastor’s First Amendment guaranteed rights either.


10 posted on 07/25/2015 12:42:01 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Bryanw92

If they wanted to hire only Wicca counselors they could. The question is whether We the People want to let it be that way.


54 posted on 07/25/2015 1:25:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Bryanw92

Yeah, they’ll get exactly the kind of “it’s all good” pastors they’re looking for along with all the troubles that accompany them.


133 posted on 07/25/2015 3:00:25 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Bryanw92
Nothing in there about a right to be a volunteer youth pastor for the state.

In Torcaso v. Watkins, 367 U.S. 488 (1961) the Supreme Court "reaffirmed that the United States Constitution prohibits States and the Federal Government from requiring any kind of religious test for public office, in the specific case, as a notary public.".

I do believe the youth pastors have a basis for a federal civil rights lawsuit which the state will lose.

140 posted on 07/25/2015 3:13:00 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Bryanw92
"Nothing in there about a right to be a volunteer youth pastor for the state."

And since when does the state have a right to take a religious (or irreligious) position for or against homosexuality?

147 posted on 07/25/2015 3:36:49 PM PDT by AnalogReigns (Real life is ANALOG...)
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To: Bryanw92

And who is “the state?” Do the people of Kentucky thing THEIR state government, who works for them, is prohibiting the free exercise of religion? Seriously man, this is why we have a first amendment.


199 posted on 07/25/2015 6:28:53 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Bryanw92
Nothing in there about a right to be a volunteer youth pastor for the state.

Exactly, which is why they should all quit.

That's serve the state of KY (snicker...) right.

217 posted on 07/25/2015 7:24:14 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Bryanw92
Nothing in there about a right to be a volunteer youth pastor for the state.

But there is this in Article VI:

... but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States. (emphasis added)
and there is this little item in the Fourteenth Amendment that the left loves to stretch beyond recognition to suit their own priorities:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;...

"volunteer youth pastor for the state" would be a public trust, so this religious test to exclude pastors from this public trust based on their religious belief is therefore clearly a violation of the Constitution. Furthermore, if the state is abridging the privileges or immunities of these pastors by excluding them due to their religious beliefs, the state's action is clearly a violation of the 14th Amendment.

308 posted on 07/28/2015 11:01:50 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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