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[KY] State forbids pastors calling homosexuality 'sinful'
WND ^ | 7/24/15 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 07/25/2015 12:36:05 PM PDT by markomalley

The state of Kentucky has begun imposing a religious test on volunteer pastor counselors in its youth division, insisting that they refrain from calling homosexuality “sinful” and dismissing those who cannot bend their religious faith to accommodate the state requirements.

The policy was uncovered by Liberty Counsel, which has sent a letter to Bob Hayter, commissioner of the Kentucky Department of Juvenile Justice, demanding that the state religious test be dropped and that a dismissed counselor be reinstated.

“Liberty Counsel writes regarding the blatantly unconstitutional revocation of volunteer prison minister status of ordained Christian minister David Wells, who has provided voluntary spiritual counseling and mentorship to juvenile inmates under the control of the Department of Juvenile Justice. … This revocation was issued by Warren County Regional Juvenile Detention Center on the basis of the April 4, 2014, DJJ Policy 912, which mandates full DJJ support of homosexuality and transvestism.

“With no evidence of any violation of DJJ policy on Mr. Wells’ part, his volunteer status was revoked by the Warren RJDC superintendent because he could not sign a state-mandated statement that homosexuality was not ‘sinful,’ among other things,” the letter said.

The policy states that DJJ staff, volunteers and others “shall not imply or tell LGBTQI juveniles that they are abnormal, deviant, sinful or that they can or should change their sexual orientation or gender identity.”


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: homofascism; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; kentucky; libertycounsel; tyranny
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To: Bryanw92
So the state is a separate entity, independent of The people, and not accountable to them?
202 posted on 07/25/2015 6:31:09 PM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: editor-surveyor
A way of thinking can be changed, but not a permanent mark. This will require an irreversible decision, not a compromise nor vacillation from which one can have a change of heart.

Revelation 20:4 is identifying those who were BEHEADED and martyred for witnessing and testifying of Christ Jesus who did not worship this beast and DID NOT accept the mark that the Beast requires all, both small and great to accept in the way they think and act (forehead and right hand).

It says nothing about a permanent mark there or in any verse in Revelation about this mark. This mark causes all who receive it to be deceived by the Beast - it says nor implies that the small and great receiving this mark are 'permanently marked'. Scripture tells us that the Beast and the False Prophet are thrown into the Lake of fire. It does not say all those with the mark and thrown in with them.

This mark is not permanent. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the only sin that can never be forgiven. The reason for this is because when one hardens their mind and heart to God - it is impossible for that person to accept grace and redemption, and rejects God completely for his own belief system.

Of their own free will they reject Him, and they will wail and gnash their teeth against the Most High rather than repent and accept Jesus as their Lord and Master.

203 posted on 07/25/2015 6:34:32 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: xzins
What I want to know is what that guy does with his hand that shows he’s with the Beast.

He acts in accord with the ideology, agenda and behaviors that the Beast promotes in the worship of itself.

For the sake of this discussion, those that wave this thing around with their hands and engage in what it stands for would fit that answer:


204 posted on 07/25/2015 6:40:52 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: DoughtyOne

I agree, I never would have believed the Bluegrass State would be part of this madness.


205 posted on 07/25/2015 6:43:47 PM PDT by rdl6989
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To: INVAR
Rev 14

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

206 posted on 07/25/2015 6:47:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: demshateGod

Bob Hayter is in fact the Commissioners real name. http://djj.ky.gov/Pages/default.aspx


207 posted on 07/25/2015 6:50:00 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: MHGinTN

We shall differ in understanding whether or not the Wrath of God upon an unrepentant mankind is the same thing as the Lake of Fire.


208 posted on 07/25/2015 6:51:23 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

No, I agree, it is not the same. I posted the relevant passage so the differentiation can be made by referring to the text. I’m not disagreeing with your assertion regarding the lake of fire.


209 posted on 07/25/2015 6:53:31 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: INVAR

Additionally, those who took the mark will stand before the GWT of judgment, so they will not be in the Lake of fire and pulled out because the Lake of fire is an eternal punishment. It is AFTER they stand before the GWT that we might want to look where they end up, with the second death.


210 posted on 07/25/2015 6:55:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: INVAR; xzins; MHGinTN
You're talking in circles.

Revelation 20 is clear that those that received the mark will not be a part of the First Resurrection.

“Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power...”

Where do you see those that received the mark?

“But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished...”

Resurrected unto the GWT judgement!

Not beneficiaries of grace, but on trial.

“And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.”

What will be the end of those judged “according to their works?”

211 posted on 07/25/2015 6:58:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DoughtyOne
I would have thought Kentucky might be one of the last to do this.

Ditto
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212 posted on 07/25/2015 6:59:05 PM PDT by Mr Apple (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCrO2SPsYjI)
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To: editor-surveyor

“Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection:” be cautious regarding the ‘first resurrection; because it is not a one day all get it type thing. Jesus raised some from the dead and Peter did too, and Elijah did also. The Rapture will raise The Bride dead and take them away to where Jesus has been preparing a place. This is not an event included in the resurrection that you’re citing.


213 posted on 07/25/2015 7:03:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

You need a more careful reading of Rev 20.

It is not addressing the elect of the past, but those of the time of the resurrection. All of the NT acknowledges the salvation of those that endured to their own end.


214 posted on 07/25/2015 7:10:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; xzins; MHGinTN

None of us know what the fate of those will be whom are judged out of the ‘books’ - which may in fact be the bible itself.

If they are ‘on trial’ as you assert - how can the sentence of eternal death be applied on all, which is the implication you suggest.

There are other studies that would indicate that only 144,000 of the Tribes of Israel make it into the First Resurrection. Where does that leave us Gentiles?

In the Second Resurrection. And if that be the case - are we all destined for the Lake of Fire since we are going to be judged out of the things written in the books?


215 posted on 07/25/2015 7:16:52 PM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR

So they have to go into a store and wave a flag to get to buy something?


216 posted on 07/25/2015 7:21:14 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Pray for their victory or quit saying you support our troops)
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To: Bryanw92
Nothing in there about a right to be a volunteer youth pastor for the state.

Exactly, which is why they should all quit.

That's serve the state of KY (snicker...) right.

217 posted on 07/25/2015 7:24:14 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: INVAR

I don’t waste my time on “studies.”

The first resurrection is the resurrection of all of the bride, and from there we attend the wedding feast, and then return to Earth for the 1000 year demonstration of the wickedness of man without Satan.


218 posted on 07/25/2015 7:29:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Read carefully the 2 Thess 2:1-3 passage. Hint: the Day of the Lord is the Tribulation. Look at the Greek word Apostasia and look at how that word was translated in the first few Bibles, before the Douay-Rheims used the word ‘revolt’ and the later the Protestant King James used ‘falling away’. The earliest translations use departure and that fits with the v 1&2 reference to gathering to Him.


219 posted on 07/25/2015 7:47:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: editor-surveyor

The Bride attends the wedding, Thereafter there is a wedding feast. The Bema Seat of Chirst occurs in Heaven, before the wedding, before the wedding feast, before the return to the Earth with The Lord.


220 posted on 07/25/2015 7:49:44 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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