Posted on 07/07/2015 3:28:43 PM PDT by VinL
Look closer at Donald Trumps recent surge in the polls, and youll see the Manhattan moguls base of support is suddenly growing, but hes taking up oxygen from the sorts of conservative candidates who have in previous years drawn the excitement and attention of conservatives.
A testament to that fact: Texas senator Ted Cruz has gone out of his way to defend Trump in the wake of the firestorm surrounding the celebrity moguls recent comments on illegal immigrants, evidence that he is trying to elbow his way into the limelight and win the favor of the sizeable number of voters who are telling pollsters theyre supporting Trump. He may never rise above 15 percent in the polls, but it doesnt mean he wont affect the race.
Merely by making himself the center of attention, he has the potential to prevent other, more serious candidates on the right from gaining traction. Ted Cruz, among the more serious tier of candidates, had staked out probably the hardest line on immigration, says Rick Wilson, a Florida-based Republican consultant. He touches the same deeply angry, populist, and extremely vocal segment of the GOP that is furious over immigration, illegal and otherwise.
Trump directly draws from that hyper-populist pool, and Cruz realizes it, since he seems to be the last Republican still not knocking Trumps block off. Trump jumped from 3 percent at the end of May to 12 percent at the end of June in CNNs national poll, putting himself in second place. In those same two surveys, Cruz dropped from 8 percent to 3 percent. Marco Rubio dropped from 14 percent to 6 percent, and Scott Walker dropped from 10 percent to 6 percent. In Fox Newss national poll, Trump leapt from 4 percent to 11 percent in a three-week stretch in June. Meanwhile, Cruz dropped from 8 percent to 4 percent; Rubio gained a point, and Walker dropped from 12 percent to 9 percent. Trump directly draws from that hyper-populist pool, and Cruz realizes it, since he seems to be the last Republican still not knocking Trumps block off.
History, of course, suggests we should take Trumps early polling strength with a grain of salt. In April 2011, the Democratic firm Public Policy Polling found Trump at the top of that cycles GOP field with 26 percent, ahead of Mike Huckabee at 17 percent and Mitt Romney at 15 percent. A week later, Gallups first national poll found Trump debuting in a first-place tie with Huckabee at 16 percent, while Romney languished in second at 13 percent. By mid-April, however, Trump had dropped to 8 percent in a Fox News poll, and he held steady there through early May, before announcing that he would not run for president after all.
Still, Trumps latest surge is a problem for any number of other candidates in the field: It seems pretty clear that the moguls current fan base consists of the partys most conservative voters those who have in previous years rallied behind candidates such as former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee and former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum.
Many of the same voters, in fact, who warmly welcomed Ted Cruz into the race this time around. Donald Trump is a salesman he understands that a dispirited portion of the Republican primary electorate wants to hear that mountains can be moved and battles long ago lost can be successfully re-litigated, and he cannot resist making that pitch, says Noah Rothman, an assistant editor at Commentary. Ted Cruz, on the other hand, knows full well that the claims he has made regarding the introduction of a constitutional amendment that would subject Supreme Court justices to retention elections and advising states to ignore the Courts ruling with regard to gay marriage are not only bad ideas but they are unfeasible. He, too, is pitching disaffected GOP voters.
Liz Mair, a GOP consultant who formerly worked with Scott Walker, sees Trump benefiting from his high name ID, the usual bump that occurs after a campaigns announcement, and his ability to reflect and amplify the bases anger.
There is a portion of the GOP electorate who are just mad as hell and arent going to take it anymore, who tend to show support for whoever also sounds the maddest or most inclined to stick it to the powers-that-be at any given time, says Mair. Trump is likely benefiting from a shift in support among people in the latter category away from candidates including Cruz, who is probably retaining support from conservatives who like his principles first and foremost, but may be losing out a little among the burn the house down types, she adds. Those people want a presidential candidate who essentially allows them to vent their frustrations, by proxy; and Trump has a huge megaphone to amplify said venting.
Here’s one for the list.
THIS ^^^^
TOUCHE......or should that be TOUPE......(sorry about that...)
Jim fell on his butt again.
(1) National polls mean nothing at this juncture. We are several months away from the first state primary, and then it is state by state, not national.
(2) Trump is much like Ann Coulter. Each can tap into the pulse of the grassroots, but each also eventually flame out with brash comments.
“In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell
He did expose that we are living in a time of universal deceit.....
However I wouldn’t vote for him,.
Close. Trump is a life long lunatic. Well ... guess it’s the same thing.
The problem is, he is going to suck the air out of the room and not go away.
Exactly.
Neither one can be trusted.
I think he's pretty much nailed what is going on in the pre-pre-pre primary.
The kiss of death for Ted would be failing to make the cut at the first debate, which would put him in the category of marginal loser candidates with Jindal, Fiorina, Kasich, Lindsey, and Santorum. But for that to happen one of those losers would need to go up about 2 points. Which probably isn't going to happen.
“The problem is, he is going to suck the air out of the room and not go away.”
All according to plan. Just like Perot in 1992 and 1996.
Trump will flame out. But the energy he creates can be absorbed by the Cruz campaign if handled deftly.
Interesting push.
VERY good analogy!
Nope.
Seems to me that every election there is a competition to see who is the most outraged. I suspect it’s the same on the left.
If he’s sucking the air out of the room, it’s only because the GOP has created a mass of disaffected conservatives who are sick and tired of the go along to get along, bipartisan, reach across the aisle, give the Democrats what they want Republicans!
Tell me how Jebbie Bush is substantially different from Hillary Clinton on the main policy issues. If you’re a conservative who thinks we need to start controlling immigration, you have nowhere left to go but Trump, Cruz, and maybe Walker. The rest of the Republicans are SURRENDERCRATS.
That's because those "sorts of conservative" candidates aren't saying a damn thing worth listening to. They all sound like like politically emasculated wimps; all trying to sound "positive", non confrontational, bipartisan blah blah blah. They all sound like Hillary! At least Trump is willing to speak out about those issues Republicans find so personally embarrassing. Trump may be insincere in his switch to conservatism but at least he isn't wimp!
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