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Sweet Cakes final order: Gresham Bakery must pay $135,000 (Oregon)
Oregonian ^ | 07/02/2015 | George Rede

Posted on 07/02/2015 3:11:28 PM PDT by aimhigh

Oregon Labor Commissioner Brad Avakian on Thursday ordered the owners of a former Gresham bakery to pay $135,000 in damages to a lesbian couple for refusing to make them a wedding cake.

Avakian's ruling upheld a preliminary finding earlier this year that the owners of Sweet Cakes by Melissa had discriminated against the women on the basis of their sexual orientation.

(Excerpt) Read more at oregonlive.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: bakery; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; oregon; sweetcakes
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To: CitizenUSA
This definitely needs to be taken all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary.

All the judges are liberal in Oregon. From there, it goes to the 9th circus. They could just file for bankruptcy since it's an adminstrative penalty.

61 posted on 07/02/2015 3:44:26 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: aimhigh

Rachel Cryer and her gal-pal need to run into some unintended consequences.


62 posted on 07/02/2015 3:47:45 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: Noumenon

+2.

Do not comply.


63 posted on 07/02/2015 3:47:45 PM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: aimhigh

Refuse.


64 posted on 07/02/2015 3:47:56 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: aimhigh
The skanks that started this are the real offenders. Yeah, this judge is an idiot, but if anyone needs to be tracked down and taken to the woodshed, it's the intolerant c__ts who filed the charges.

When the war starts, I would not want to be in their (sensible) shoes.

65 posted on 07/02/2015 3:53:24 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: DoodleDawg
Do you think a business has to make a type of product for a consumer whether they think the product they will make goes against their conscience? Should a Jewish baker be forced to make a Nazi-themed cake?

The Nazi Party is legal in all states. According to your logic, the Jewish baker MUST!!! bake that cake for the Nazis and decorate that cake exactly the way the Nazis want it decorated.

66 posted on 07/02/2015 3:56:29 PM PDT by driftless2
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To: GraceG

Bingo.


67 posted on 07/02/2015 4:01:06 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (I'm fed up.)
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To: aimhigh

Certainly there are legal groups willing to represent the bakery for free. This needs to be argued all the way to the Supreme Court if necessary. Force Kennedy to clarify his position (since Kennedy is apparently the only justice that matters anymore). We’ll either get a ruling saying we are free to exercise religion, or we’ll know liberty no longer exists in the USA.


68 posted on 07/02/2015 4:07:03 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: Lizavetta
Definitely takes it up the AZZZZ
69 posted on 07/02/2015 4:08:14 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: CitizenUSA

The easy way out would have been to say”Oh! Sorry! We’ll be on vacation then. The bakery will be closed.” Take a couple days off.


70 posted on 07/02/2015 4:13:05 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
They should take more than a several days off. I have an idea where...

What's good for the goose (draft dodgers) is good for the gander (persecuted for religion). Empty your bank account and get to Canada in a quiet area, FAST!

71 posted on 07/02/2015 4:20:29 PM PDT by bolobaby
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To: DoodleDawg
And it is a First Amendment case, free exercise of religion as the Founders meant it is broader than freedom of worship and belief, which is what the left want to limit it to.

So the question is, in the new land of Newspeak jurisprudence we live in, in which words mean whatever a majority vote of the SCOTUS says they mean, does "free exercise of religion" now denote the same thing as the phrase from the old Soviet Constitution "freedom of worship and anti-religious propaganda"?

'I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.

Humpty Dumpty Justice Kennedy smiled contemptuously. 'Of course you don't — till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'

'But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty Justice Kennedy said, in rather a scornful tone, 'it means just what I choose it to mean — neither more nor less.'

'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.'

'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty Justice Kennedy, 'which is to be master — that's all.'

72 posted on 07/02/2015 4:24:37 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks for that donation site. I just went there and made a small donation. Wish I could afford more. If everybody in the country donated, it would make a statement of unity for these folks.


73 posted on 07/02/2015 4:27:01 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Yeah, that would be the easy way, but I’m at the point I would rather have this conflict between competing civil rights come to a head. Homosexuality either trumps free exercise of religion or free exercise trumps homosexuality. Christians will survive and probably even grow stronger if it’s the former. The apostles certainly took great joy in being punished for Christ, as it was evidence they were worthy of following in His footsteps.

I prefer to live in a free country of course, but I don’t really think we’re free anymore. However, maybe I’ll be proven wrong and Americans will rally to protect free EXERCISE of religion. Votes haven’t changed much recently, but we still have the mechanisms in place. A large enough protest vote can still theoretically force change, but the odds are very much against us.


74 posted on 07/02/2015 4:29:58 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: CitizenUSA

I fully agree with you,,,, but,,, as small business people, whose lives depended on their bakery? They’ve been royally screwed! They can’t afford it!


75 posted on 07/02/2015 4:33:42 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra (Don't touch that thing Don't let anybody touch that thing!I'm a Doctor and I won't touch that thing!)
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To: FreedomStar3028

ms like it would have been a lot easier to just make a really crappy cake for the couple.


76 posted on 07/02/2015 4:35:46 PM PDT by refermech
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To: Old Grumpy; DeepInTheHeartOfTexas; HiTech RedNeck; Lizavetta; CitizenUSA; Michael.SF.; ...
Bless you. I wish all FReepers did the same. Let's stop wringing our hands and moaning "Oh woe is me" and DO something.

If we don't actually SUPPORT these people, we're no earthly good to anybody.

Please, freepers, give to support the good guys on this one:

https://www.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/page/courageous-believers?referral=I0615MAR5

77 posted on 07/02/2015 4:36:47 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Chutzpah.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’ve bookmarked the site and will take another look at it when I can give. It looks like a worthy organization.

https://www.alliancedefendingfreedom.org/page/courageous-believers?referral=I0615MAR5


78 posted on 07/02/2015 4:39:27 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
It refused to furnish a specific decoration for a specific kind of ceremony. This was not like walking into a place and purchasing a blank cake.

Based on the story it doesn't sound like it got that far. Once they found out it was a cake for a same sex wedding the store told them no, and told them why. Unfortunately they gave the lesbian couple the ammunition they needed, though at the time I'm sure they never in their wildest dreams thought they'd be hauled into court.

79 posted on 07/02/2015 4:43:44 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: driftless2
Do you think a business has to make a type of product for a consumer whether they think the product they will make goes against their conscience? Should a Jewish baker be forced to make a Nazi-themed cake?

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that Nazis are not a protected class while homosexuals, at least in Oregon, are. So Sweet Cakes, or your Jewish baker, could have refused to bake the cake and they would have been free from prosecution. But refusing to bake a cake for homosexuals or blacks or handicapped or any other protected class will get you in trouble. I'm not saying it's right, it's just the way it is.

80 posted on 07/02/2015 4:47:00 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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