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Posted on 06/29/2015 8:09:20 AM PDT by fishtank
Dinosaur proteins and radiocarbon wreak ‘Jurassic World’ havoc
Latest creationist research demolishes dinosaur dogma
by Brian Thomas
Published: 25 June 2015 (GMT+10)
The record-earning movie Jurassic World continuously reminds its viewing audience that dinosaurs went extinct tens of millions of years ago. Most agree with this, of course, because it is the standard view of the evolutionary establishment. But just days after the movie hit big screens around the world, six technical papers in a special, groundbreaking, dinosaur issue of the journal Creation Research Society1 Quarterly (CRSQ) presented evidence that directly confronts the millions-of-years concept.2
I wrote one paper that reviewed a few dozen reports published over several decades in evolutionary journals, all showing evidence of original biochemicals like collagen protein persisting in dinosaur bones and other fossils. Apparently, not all fossils are totally permineralized and this remains a thorny issue for evolutionist researchers in trying to explain how such organic material could still be intact in the remains of dinosaurs that supposedly died out at least 65 million years ago. Indeed, the paper also identified published decay rates that show proteins have a maximum shelf-life of fewer than a million years, assuming reasonable earth surface temperatures.
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I just don’t have enough faith to believe in the evolutionary dogma of millions of years.
As the article states: “One simple suggestion solves these dilemmas—dinosaur fossils formed thousands, not millions of years ago.”
Oh Boy! If anyone believes this let me know and I will contact you later with a great investment “secret” on how to cash in on the Greek stock market.
Here’s a riddle for you: how can soft tissue survive in dinosaur remains for millions of years, when it cannot survive in human remains for more than a few thousand years?
Can you explain the protein that remains?
Any science that requires faith isn’t science. That’s a nice bumper sticker. I think I’m going to print some up.
Are there idiots who believe this nonsense?
The record-earning movie Jurassic World continuously reminds its viewing audience that dinosaurs went extinct tens of millions of years ago. Most agree with this, of course, because it is the standard view of the evolutionary establishment. But just days after the movie hit big screens around the world, six technical papers in a special, groundbreaking, dinosaur issue of the journal Creation Research Society1 Quarterly (CRSQ) presented evidence that directly confronts the millions-of-years concept.2
I wrote one paper that reviewed a few dozen reports published over several decades in evolutionary journals, all showing evidence of original biochemicals like collagen protein persisting in dinosaur bones and other fossils. Apparently, not all fossils are totally permineralized and this remains a thorny issue for evolutionist researchers in trying to explain how such organic material could still be intact in the remains of dinosaurs that supposedly died out at least 65 million years ago. Indeed, the paper also identified published decay rates that show proteins have a maximum shelf-life of fewer than a million years, assuming reasonable earth surface temperatures.
The Jurassic World movie even mentions the dinosaur “soft tissues” that creation scientists have long argued shows a recent burial.3,4 In one scene, two young characters discuss how iron acted as a preservative to keep proteins and DNA around long enough for the movie’s scientists to reconstruct an array of extinct animals. This ‘iron solution’ idea has taken on a life of its own in an attempt to explain how soft tissue, proteins and blood cells could survive in fossils that are ‘obviously tens of millions of years old’. The whole idea of iron generating free radicals as a preservative is firmly debunked in one of the CRSQ papers. Here, two Ph.D. chemists demonstrate that the radicals, and the water they are transported in, actually destroy the chemicals of life, not preserve them.5 One wonders where such iron rich solutions might apparently appear so abundantly in nature, and paint themselves onto inner bone proteins as to preserve the dozens of dinosaur proteins found around the world with no evidence of iron on or near them.
Another paper in this dino issue features stunning close-up images of intact bone cells from a Triceratops horn. Researchers used a strong chelating agent (EDTA) to dissolve and remove the bone’s hard minerals. Remarkably, they also show networks of tiny blood vessels. This adds to the list of original biochemicals and tissue remnants that should not exist in fossils any older than one million years.
Creation researcher Vance Nelson and I wrote the last CRSQ paper in this issue, which showed even more clearly how far Jurassic Worlddeparts from science and history. Carbon dates from seven dinosaur bones, including the Triceratops that yielded cells, also indicate young fossils. Radiocarbon in fish fossils, and even Paleozoic wood and lizard samples add to dozens of already published radiocarbon dates for fossils, wood, shells, and coal—all supposedly tens or hundreds of millions of years old. Carbon-14 decays so fast that it should all have become stable nitrogen-14, and would be undetectable after well under a million years.6 Vance Nelson’s book Untold Secrets of Planet Earth: Flood Fossils noted carbon-14 in dinosaur bones tested by the radioisotope lab of a major university in the US. What is it doing in so many samples, including dinosaur bones?
One simple suggestion solves these dilemmas—dinosaur fossils formed thousands, not millions of years ago. That’s why they still have proteins, cells, and radiocarbon. But due to the ruling paradigm of millions of years of evolution, such ‘young’ ages for the existence of dinosaurs are simply dismissed.
All this reveals a stunning Jurassic irony. In order to pretend that dinosaurs could not live with humans, evolutionary history demands we overlook genetics, biochemistry and radiocarbon results. But if we follow these sciences and instead look past millions-of-years dogma, we find that dinosaurs really did live only thousands of years ago, with humans.7
Utter nonsense.
“I just don’t have enough faith to believe in the evolutionary dogma of millions of years.”
That’s OK, because knowledge of geology does not depend on any faith. It is like geometry, with a bit of chemistry and elementary anatomy thrown in.
However, you have to learn something to understand it all, and not fall for this creationist stuff.
Perhaps intelligent reading of the Bible would help. I was discussing this with a fellow Christian, and we both agreed that there is nothing in geology or evolutionary biology that contradicts any of the real message of our religion. (He is a Catholic, and I am a Protestant.)
But a nice thing is, you don’t really have to believe in the facts of geology and evolution if you don’t want to. It probably makes very little difference in the way you live your life. It may limit your understanding of the world around you just a bit, but no one claims that knowledge alone saves us.
So, have a great day!
I don’t know how long ago the dinosaurs lived but I do know that our scientific methods are not always 100% perfect and there are many times in science where there have been massive miscalculations. Here’s an interesting one:
http://sciencenordic.com/fish-corrupt-carbon-14-dating
(Fish can corrupt carbon dating - Carbon dating of vessels that had fish cooked in them was off by 2000 years.)
They cannot answer the question. The data and the dogma do not match. But being good dogmatists they cannot let unpleasant facts interrupt their rigid religiosity.
Besides, in every culture on the planet there are legends of knights fighting dragons, which implies that these monstrously large animals coexisted with man in a very violent way.
I would think that St. George is not only the patron saint of England, but he must be the patron saint of those who slay the dragons of our time, the false dogmas that are promoted by secular humanists in the name of science.
Yes, if you are referring to the fairy tale that “billions of years ago, in a swamp far away, on a world made from not even pixie dust, in a universe that spontaneously sprang from nothing into untold billions of tons of matter for no reason, that a spark of static electricity formed a protein that rather than decayed continued to become more and more complex until hundreds of thousands of life forms differentiated due to positive responses to changing conditions into the diverse earth we see today.... Yes indeed. And they walk among us without warning labels, yes.
And, worst yet, all of this construct is formulated on the premise of “science” (a body of knowledge) which has not and cannot be replicated in a rational format, which flies in the face of the very mechanism touted to prove it (the scientific method).
Scary huh? They teach our kids.
When “Jurassic Park” first came out, I sat in the theater wowed by the hype. Then, when the actors started spouting off about how that JP island was started up in just a short time; I wondered how in the world they got the seeds for the prehistoric plants & giant trees that had just magically “appeared” on the island & grew so big so quickly. I sat there mulling the whole time; but after while I just relaxed & sort of enjoyed the fairy tale.
A most essential part of the movie experience. Once the moviemakers can get you off your analytical/cynical perspective they have you. And you get your money's worth of entertainment.
I’m curious too...
Before using your “idiot” label, and tossing scorn around, perhaps you can explain the existence of proteins after “60 million years”?
Easy to dismiss it as “utter nonsense” (just like the author said you would); much more difficult to explain the protein. Care to take a stab at it?
Sounds like you’ve been duped.
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