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Is California trying to take our water?
Arizona Daily Star ^ | June 28, 2015 | By Tony Davis

Posted on 06/28/2015 8:42:54 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

Republican Gov. Doug Ducey and Democratic Rep. Raúl Grijalva don’t agree on much, but both worry California could take Arizona’s water.

The conservative governor and the liberal congressman say Arizona must be vigilant to ensure its drought-parched neighbor doesn’t use federal action to grab some of Arizona’s Colorado River supply.

Of particular concern is a California drought bill that’s been quietly negotiated for months in the U.S. Senate.

“The secrecy generates concern and nervousness. Nobody I know in Arizona knows what’s in this bill at this point,” says Chuck Cullom, who manages Colorado River issues for the Central Arizona Project, the canal system that brings the river water to Phoenix, Tucson, tribes and farms.

The two states have fought over water many times, and any threat from giant California has always been a potent Arizona rallying cry. California, after all, has much more political clout: 53 members in the House of Representatives compared to Arizona’s nine. And California’s water situation is much worse than Arizona’s, which has done far more than its neighbor over the years to conserve water and prepare for shortages. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at tucson.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; US: Arizona; US: California
KEYWORDS: arizona; california; chuckcullom; coloradoriver; dougducey; drought; governormoonbeam; jerrybrown; moonbeam; raulgrijalva; water
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To: cripplecreek
'California is the 4th driest state and one of the most populous is filled with millions of foreign national illegal aliens.

And our rulers won't send them back to their home countries even during a serious drought.

21 posted on 06/28/2015 9:17:03 AM PDT by Pelham (Deo Vindice)
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To: cripplecreek

Only Lake Michigan belongs to the U.S. The others are shared with Canada. I can’t imagine Canadians/Canadiens going along with this. And their First Nations people will have much to say, as well.


22 posted on 06/28/2015 9:22:45 AM PDT by beelzepug (liberalism is not...a political philosophy. It is a stage of arrested emotional development.)
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To: beelzepug

Technically lake Michigan and Lake Huron are 1 lake which is why Canada has free access to Lake Michigan despite it being entirely within US boundaries.


23 posted on 06/28/2015 9:26:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: cripplecreek

I was reading that we can expect a big freeze for North-East US, Britain, and Northern Europe due to decreased solar output.

Creating a mini-ice age for the next 35-75 years.

I wonder if this means California is going to get a drought lasting that long.

I noticed that the same weather pattern that gives them the cold is the one that is drying up the west coast.


24 posted on 06/28/2015 9:37:35 AM PDT by dila813
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Re: “The secrecy generates concern and nervousness. Nobody I know in Arizona knows what’s in this bill at this point.”

After the two Supreme Court decisions last week, it doesn’t matter anymore what’s actually written in this bill, or what’s written in any other bill, either.


25 posted on 06/28/2015 9:46:52 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: TMSuchman
I thought, under Bush43, the Great Lakes were protected from that kind of shenanigans?

Looking

26 posted on 06/28/2015 9:54:49 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: TMSuchman

Columbia river would make more sense.


27 posted on 06/28/2015 9:56:50 AM PDT by TheDon (BO must be replaced immediately for the good of the nation and the world!)
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To: CondorFlight

But remember, California is still going to have a high-speed rail to nowhere, that costs $68 billion...


Hey! You are dead wrong!

( Our train going nowhere will actually be a pretty slow train and it won’t actuall go into the cities it will eventually attempt to connect, and it will actually cost much much more than that.)


28 posted on 06/28/2015 10:00:21 AM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way...")
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To: dila813

Experts are saying that most likely CA will have a very wet El Niño winter this year. Hmmmm. It has already rained more in June than in the rest of the year. Weird.


29 posted on 06/28/2015 10:02:05 AM PDT by Yaelle ("You're gonna fly away, Glad you're going my way...")
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To: TheDon

“Columbia river would make more sense.”

Not when you have to go up against the Salmon Army!


30 posted on 06/28/2015 10:16:39 AM PDT by beelzepug (liberalism is not...a political philosophy. It is a stage of arrested emotional development.)
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To: cripplecreek

The nation, once a republic of laws, is no a democracy of majority rule and California has more people than Arizona and so they will get some Judge or administrative court to steal my water.

The tyranny of 51% is only a little more cumbersome than a tyranny of one.


31 posted on 06/28/2015 10:22:51 AM PDT by KC Burke (Ceterum censeo Islam esse delendam)
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To: CondorFlight
So as in any crisis, those who are not prepared are going to want to seize what they need from those who are prepared.

Well, yeah.

From those according to their ability, to those according to their need. - Marx

32 posted on 06/28/2015 10:43:43 AM PDT by pa_dweller (But 'twould be an ill world for weaponless dreamers if evil men were not now and then slain - JRK)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

33 posted on 06/28/2015 10:55:22 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: cripplecreek

And Canada has its own lakes they can pump dry. The good news is there are only about 5 ways out of the California Southern coastal basin. Would not take much to lock them up. Suspect the Feds already have ways to do that.


34 posted on 06/28/2015 11:07:21 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: cripplecreek; TMSuchman

during the last cal drought there was talk of going after the Lake Superior water... didn’t happen that time and will not this time


35 posted on 06/28/2015 3:25:27 PM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: markman46
Its never going to happen. The city of Waukesha Wisconsin is less than 20 miles from lake Michigan and they can't draw water from Lake Michigan for their municipal water supply.

Apparently they're just outside the great lakes watershed and apparently taking water from the watershed while runoff goes into the Mississippi watershed is a no no. (They are working on a means of putting the wastewater back into the Lk Michigan watershed)


36 posted on 06/28/2015 4:11:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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To: TheDon

You’re full of crap.


37 posted on 06/28/2015 4:19:16 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: TheDon

Kirk to Bridge. Kirk to Bridge.

38 posted on 06/28/2015 4:29:11 PM PDT by SunLakesJeff
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To: steve86

What the heck do you base that on?

The Columbia river is much closer and has no mountain ranges resembling the Rockies between it and CA.


39 posted on 06/28/2015 4:48:22 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

They are still dependent upon Arizona, Nevada, and Utah for about 25% of their electricity imports. California electric operations divested percentage ownership to meet legal obligations, yet still import the power, hiding behind manipulation of sourcing rules.

They are dependent upon hospitable relations for grid stability, with the renewable percentage as deployed. Should Cali go to war with the other Colorado basin stakeholders, all their grid could go out from lack of base-load support.


40 posted on 06/28/2015 5:26:06 PM PDT by Ozark Tom
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