Posted on 06/28/2015 8:42:54 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
Republican Gov. Doug Ducey and Democratic Rep. Raúl Grijalva dont agree on much, but both worry California could take Arizonas water.
The conservative governor and the liberal congressman say Arizona must be vigilant to ensure its drought-parched neighbor doesnt use federal action to grab some of Arizonas Colorado River supply.
Of particular concern is a California drought bill thats been quietly negotiated for months in the U.S. Senate.
The secrecy generates concern and nervousness. Nobody I know in Arizona knows whats in this bill at this point, says Chuck Cullom, who manages Colorado River issues for the Central Arizona Project, the canal system that brings the river water to Phoenix, Tucson, tribes and farms.
The two states have fought over water many times, and any threat from giant California has always been a potent Arizona rallying cry. California, after all, has much more political clout: 53 members in the House of Representatives compared to Arizonas nine. And Californias water situation is much worse than Arizonas, which has done far more than its neighbor over the years to conserve water and prepare for shortages. . .
(Excerpt) Read more at tucson.com ...
And our rulers won't send them back to their home countries even during a serious drought.
Only Lake Michigan belongs to the U.S. The others are shared with Canada. I can’t imagine Canadians/Canadiens going along with this. And their First Nations people will have much to say, as well.
Technically lake Michigan and Lake Huron are 1 lake which is why Canada has free access to Lake Michigan despite it being entirely within US boundaries.
I was reading that we can expect a big freeze for North-East US, Britain, and Northern Europe due to decreased solar output.
Creating a mini-ice age for the next 35-75 years.
I wonder if this means California is going to get a drought lasting that long.
I noticed that the same weather pattern that gives them the cold is the one that is drying up the west coast.
Re: “The secrecy generates concern and nervousness. Nobody I know in Arizona knows whats in this bill at this point.”
After the two Supreme Court decisions last week, it doesn’t matter anymore what’s actually written in this bill, or what’s written in any other bill, either.
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Columbia river would make more sense.
But remember, California is still going to have a high-speed rail to nowhere, that costs $68 billion...
Hey! You are dead wrong!
( Our train going nowhere will actually be a pretty slow train and it won’t actuall go into the cities it will eventually attempt to connect, and it will actually cost much much more than that.)
Experts are saying that most likely CA will have a very wet El Niño winter this year. Hmmmm. It has already rained more in June than in the rest of the year. Weird.
“Columbia river would make more sense.”
Not when you have to go up against the Salmon Army!
The nation, once a republic of laws, is no a democracy of majority rule and California has more people than Arizona and so they will get some Judge or administrative court to steal my water.
The tyranny of 51% is only a little more cumbersome than a tyranny of one.
Well, yeah.
From those according to their ability, to those according to their need. - Marx
And Canada has its own lakes they can pump dry. The good news is there are only about 5 ways out of the California Southern coastal basin. Would not take much to lock them up. Suspect the Feds already have ways to do that.
during the last cal drought there was talk of going after the Lake Superior water... didn’t happen that time and will not this time
You’re full of crap.
What the heck do you base that on?
The Columbia river is much closer and has no mountain ranges resembling the Rockies between it and CA.
They are still dependent upon Arizona, Nevada, and Utah for about 25% of their electricity imports. California electric operations divested percentage ownership to meet legal obligations, yet still import the power, hiding behind manipulation of sourcing rules.
They are dependent upon hospitable relations for grid stability, with the renewable percentage as deployed. Should Cali go to war with the other Colorado basin stakeholders, all their grid could go out from lack of base-load support.
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