Posted on 06/26/2015 6:41:15 PM PDT by ealgeone
Does today's ruling by SCOTUS constitute legitimate reasons to fly the flag upside down?
Carl, I’ll try one last time to explain this simple matter so that even you can understand it:
Immediate physical threat, restricted to a given locality and time span, means OK to fly flag upside down.
Any other situation means not OK to fly flag upside down.
Flag upside down is request for immediate assistance to avert threat. Not expression of generalized disgruntlement or even perfectly justified generalized fear.
I strongly doubt whether any Supreme Court decision means that you are likely to lose your life over it in the next few minutes, or even the next few days, and I can’t see what aid you could expect from anyone who sees your distress signal. Therefore, I consider it improper for you to use these decisions as a reason to display the flag upside down.
So yes, I refuse to get your false ideas on when it is proper to fly the flag upside down. I understand your reasoning, but it is simply not true.
I stand by my contention that displaying the flag improperly is disrespectful to it, and that other forms of desecration differ only in the degree of disrespect.
I have spent enough time on this, and will not respond to further posts on the subject. I believe that you are genuinely concerned with the state of things in this country (as am I), and I hope you will reconsider your views on displaying our flag.
NEVER!!!!
exactly!!!
Stop complaining...come up with a plan.
Many on this blog are forward thinkers, retired business people, teachers, lawyers.... please use your brains!
The only people that will see your flag are your neighbors and their children. Mama why is Mr. so and so disrespecting our flag? hmmmmmmmmmmmm
A solution isn’t an attached problem... a solution moves us forward!!!
what now people THINK!
It is not disrespectful.
What IS disrespectful is burning the flag, urinating on the flag, stepping on the flag, and everything else the treasoncrats have been doing to it since the founding of their party.
Is it not disrespectful to completely ignore the will of the people?
Is it not an insult to thumb their noses at those states who through a popular vote voted overwhelmingly to ammend their state’s constitution in order to protect traditional marriage and other deep seated values that have been under assault since empERROR zero got in office?
Those who see the current homoterrorism actions of the SCOTUS and its leftist supporters, or other actions by the Obama regime, or the SCOTUS genocide-by-abortion decision of 1973, as "extreme danger to life or property" do not have to restrain themselves from flying the flag upsidedown based on your personal opinions.
For years, huh? How is that a sign of “immediate” distress?
I don’t think that’s an answer, if you think it is, please elucidate.
Well, Carl, you just fly your flag any way you please. (I know I said I wouldn’t post back, but I changed my mind.)
I do have to wonder, though, how effective your distress signal might be. If anyone has ever come to your assistance in response to your distress signal (which I doubt), what action were they able to take there and then to avert this “extreme danger to life or property”? If the answer is, as I suspect, “none whatsoever”, then how do you justify using the flag to request aid?
The inability to differentiate between being offended and actual physical harm seems to be characteristic of the liberal mindset. Indeed, I can recall leftists flying the flag upside down because they were offended by the actions of the George W. Bush administration. I thought it was absurd then, and I think it just as absurd now when so-called conservatives use this way of expressing unhappiness with the government. Liberal attitudes will out.
So you go ahead and do whatever you want with the flag. I doubt I will be able to convince you that it is contrary to the flag code, and I am damned well sure that you will not convince me of your views.
As the old saying goes: “I could agree with you, but then we’d both be wrong.”
OK, I’ll give you the answer if you are so insistent. The answer is no.
Again, Hartley, you keep adding to the U.S. Code your own words, phrases, and irrational expectations. You now claim people should meet some undefined level of effectiveness before their action is justified, at least in your opinion.
The Code does not require one to ascertain how effective the distress signal will be before flying the flag upsidedown.
Carl, I don’t really think you’re a moron, quite yet, just deliberately obtuse. The reason that I am using words and phrases not contained in the flag code (and I have not claimed that they are contained in the Code, despite your implication), is that I have been attempting, futilely, to explain that code to you, since you do not seem to understand it.
I cannot understand how you, or anyone with an ounce of brains, could think that a law was passed specifically to enable doofuses to use the flag of our nation to express their disapproval of the government of that nation.
Just because your idiotic interpretation of the flag law is not actually forbidden by the wording of the law does not for a moment mean that it is correct.
“...Gay marriage...”
I said this on another thread today. We need to cease using that term. It ISN”T A MARRIAGE. I don’t know what it is other than an abomination and a slap in the face of God. Maybe abomination is the word/term to use.
I’ve been doing that since January 20, 2009.
I wonder how many other subtle messages of protest are available to citizens suggest solidarity against a governing tyranny?
“OK, I’ll give you the answer if you are so insistent. The answer is no.”
My question was: Is there ever an instance that the flag should be flown upside down?
And your resorting to name-calling ("moron", "doofuses", "an ounce of brains", "idiotic") or attributing unsubstantiated motives ("to express their disapproval of the government of that nation") are even less effective in presenting your case to those of us who fly or will fly the flag upsidedown in these times of dire distress.
“How do those homos think they got here? The stork?”
Maybe Mooseshell delivered ‘em!
Sure, Carl. Whatever you say. Flying the flag upside down is for important matters such as being upset, not just for trivial stuff like sinking ships and such, and that’s undoubtedly why the Flag Code was written and passed in the first place.
Don’t get all sniffy about name-calling until you learn to read and comprehend. I have not actually called you yourself any of those things, though I did state that your interpretation of the Flag Code is idiotic, because it is. And what is this nonsense about unsubstantiated motives? You said in your first post that some decisions of the Supreme Court caused you distress. The Supreme Court is part of the government, and you disapprove of their decisions, and you express that disapproval by flying the flag upside down. I didn’t invent that.
If anyone is adding concepts and expectations to the Flag Code, it is you and others who think that mental and emotional distress is the same as physical distress. I apparently cannot explain this in any terms that you are able to understand.
Fly your flag as you please. I’ll continue to hold my opinions on the matter. I hope that your “dire distress” over the Supreme Court is the worst misfortune that you suffer, and that you never have to learn what dire distress really is.
Won't take "no" for an answer? Well, then to quote Bill Clinton, "No! No! No! No! No!"
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