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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not all Northerners opposed slavery. Some Unionists had slaves

Not all Southerners supported slavery.

Slavery may have caused the Civil War but slavery was not what motivated all, or perhaps even most soldiers on both sides.

The American Flag flew over a slave nation longer than any confederate flag.

The Confederate flag has long been a respected regional southern symbol.

The KKK used as many American Flags as Confederate Flags.

None of this has anything to do with Charleston.

The same people pushing this stole the word Gay to define sodomites, oppose names like Redskins and Warriors for sports teams, etc, etc.

Banning this flag is stupid, irrelevant, and countreproductive and this culture warriors who seek nothing less than the total remaking of our society need to be stopped NOW.


6 posted on 06/25/2015 3:32:09 AM PDT by ZULU (Boehner and McConnell are Obama's Strumpets.)
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To: ZULU

When the libtards and the media say “jump” the GOP asks how high.


9 posted on 06/25/2015 3:47:18 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ZULU

One of the most horrendous stories of slavery took place in Illinois. Today the old salve house is considered one of the most haunted places in America for the atrocities that took place there. I read about it as a young child. It’s said the walls still bleed...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1kxlt9WEFvU


10 posted on 06/25/2015 3:55:30 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ZULU
ZULU: "Not all Northerners opposed slavery.
Some Unionists had slaves."

In 1860 virtually all Northerners, including Republicans, were content to allow slavery in the South.
All northerners understood that Southern slavery was the price of Union, that opposing slavery meant Southern secession.

What Northerners adamantly opposed was expanding slavery into their own states via the Supreme Court's Dred-Scott decision, or into Western territories which didn't want it.

Northern Democrats like President James Buchanan from Pennsylvania did everything they could to address Southern concerns about slavery.

ZULU: "Not all Southerners supported slavery."

Huge areas of western Virginia, Maryland & North Carolina, plus eastern Tennessee & Kentucky opposed slavery and the Confederacy and supplied troops for the Union Army.
They made a significant difference in the course of the Civil War.

ZULU: "The American Flag flew over a slave nation longer than any confederate flag."

Even though southern Founders like Washington, Jefferson and Madison understood that slavery was wrong and should eventually be abolished, other slave-owners made the institution of slavery a pre-condition to establishing the United States under its 1787 Constitution.

Bottom line: without slavery there would have been no United States.
And two separate countries would never have fought a Civil War to abolish slavery.

13 posted on 06/25/2015 4:11:10 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: ZULU

great post


14 posted on 06/25/2015 4:11:40 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: ZULU

300,000 Union Supporters had slaves. many of the Union soldiers went AWOL after the Emancipation Proclamation was announced. the Emancipation Proclamation was hoped that the slaves would rise up in revolt to the slave owners - did not happen. Lincoln wanted to remove all slaves elsewhere never happened. There was one country decided for free slaves - Liberia in Africa - how did that turn out.
Slavery still exists in Africa - slaves are sold to guess what country - Saudi Arabia - where is the outrage and boycott of Saudi Arabia. Next thing is they will protest oil as it too keeps America in bondage


17 posted on 06/25/2015 4:15:46 AM PDT by hondact200 (Cruz: Stop trying to unload the trainload of manure on the American Conservative)
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To: ZULU

Not while there is someone who will be forever 18 and shares my last name is buried at Gettysburg would I ever fly the Stars and Bars or own one. I could understand why someone who never got the bits and pieces of their family member back from Chancellorsville might feel just the opposite and that doesn’t bother me. I hope there is a special place in Hell for Demagogue politicians who rein flick the pain of these wounds on our nation for their political purposes. They have richly earned it. Not just the libtard Rats, either but the witless GOP that don’t have the presence of mind to realize they are being played like a fiddle. We have plenty of real problems that require energy and attention and to waste time and effort on the latest round of libtard BS is criminal.


20 posted on 06/25/2015 4:20:25 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: ZULU
Banning this flag is stupid, irrelevant, and countreproductive and this culture warriors who seek nothing less than the total remaking of our society need to be stopped NOW.

Then we have to stop the GOP. They are the ones rushing forward to rip the glorious, beautiful Confederate Battle flag down (long may she wave).

49 posted on 06/25/2015 6:21:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The new GOP slogan: "Vote for us!!! We are exactly the same as the Democrats !!!")
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