Source: Haley formulating plan to remove Confederate flag from State House

Live5news.com ^ | 06/22/2015 | Jeremy Turnage

[GIdget2004]

A source close to the situation says Gov. Nikki Haley is formulating a plan with State House leaders to remove the Confederate flag from the State House grounds.

Details are limited, but Haley is holding a news conference on Monday at 4 p.m., according to a release from the governor's office.

The governor's office stopped short of saying the reasons for the news conference.

South Carolina House Speaker Jay Lucas has already called for "swift resolution" on the Confederate flag issue.

[Altura Ct.]

Can’t wait until they come after our founders , history and the American flag as well. All these quisling will be bending over for that too.

They will be found ‘racially offensive’ and insensitive. We have already seen multiple instances so it.

[Republican Wildcat]

Perhaps that would be a good idea as an alternative - and the point should be made if someone says if there should be no memorials for Confederate soldiers that many of them were drafted.

[rockrr]

Sure, just don’t do it the way they tried it the last time.

[Godebert]

"Of course. Cower. Surrender. Cede the argument to the PC Nazis that their lunatic notions have merit. Kick off Andrew Jackson off the dollar bill, too. Force the Washington Redskins to change their name. Wave the flag of surrender to every tinpot lib fascist. Yep, keep empowering them. Just like they insist banning anyone from bringing Crosses and Bibles from anyplace on school grounds. Erase all our founding fathers from our history books. Cower, surrender, and grovel before your fascist masters.

Americans have become spineless wimps. A total disgrace to all our ancestors who built this nation. It’s become impossible to have anything but disgust and contempt for this entire generation of Americans."

Well said.

[BillyBoy]

In any case, the current Governor is Nikki Haley (R), and a "Tea Party" candidate.

Jim Hodges (D) didn't remove the flag, although the legislature moved it from the top of the capitol building to the confederate memorial during his tenure.

So if Haley proceeds with removal of the confederate flag from the capitol grounds, South Carolina will join Georgia as an example where a RAT Governor (Fritz Hollings) put the flag up, and a GOP Governor (Nikki Haley) took the flag down.

Not that the mainstream media will notice or care.

[Godebert]

The 1861 Palmetto Flag would be far more appropriate if the state wants to honor South Carolina "history". The Confederate Battle Flag wasn't put there until the 1960s. South Carolina never flew it during the civil war.

You are full of it. The flag was flown by numerous South Carolina regiments, including my g-g-grandfather's:

[livius]

I agree. Prior to this attack, I wouldn’t have wanted it removed. But it clearly attracts the wrong kind of people - crazy, in his case - looking for a cause, and the cause it brings to their mind is not good. He’s ruined it, but ruined it is and it shouldn’t fly over the statehouse.

[Godebert]

It no longer flies over the Statehouse. It flies over a monument to honor South Carolina soldiers on the Statehouse grounds.

[mrmeyer]

When a symbol exists as a rallying point for terrorists, then regardless of its other meanings, that one meaning has to take precedence.

Oh really?

[babble-on]

The KKK was hiding behind the American flag in those instances. The American flag never stood for the KKK in the popular mind. You could never put out an American flag in hopes of attracting the KKK.

With the stars and bars the opposite is true today. There’s a conflation of its historical role where it was used in a specific place and time, one that no longer exists, and its use today as a rallying point for an underclass of disaffected losers who erroneously believe that they would be winners if only the slaves had not been freed and that there is some way to go back.

[RightGeek]

I’m a Good Ol’ Rebel https://youtu.be/YAfHigPsC_s

[BillyBoy]

>> The flag was flown by numerous South Carolina regiments, including my g-g-grandfather's <<

Your great great grandfather flew that flag over the South Carolina state capitol grounds? Doubtful.

[Godebert]

Nice try. You stated that South Carolina never flew the Confederate battle flag. I proved you wrong.

[BillyBoy]

Nope, my exact comment was "The Confederate Battle Flag wasn't put there until the 1960s", in response to this thread topic discussing whether to remove the Confederate flag from the State House grounds. That is 100% accurate. The battle flag NEVER flew over the state capitol during the civil war, and was put there in the 1960s by a Democrat.

Your great grand granddaddy marching around with it in other states during the war to defend slavery doesn't count and is not relevant to the thread's topic about whether it belongs on the state capitol grounds.

Nice try.

[Godebert]

"Nope, my exact comment was "The Confederate Battle Flag wasn't put there until the 1960s", in response to this thread topic discussing whether to remove the Confederate flag from the State House grounds."

Here is your exact comment:

"The 1861 Palmetto Flag would be far more appropriate if the state wants to honor South Carolina "history". The Confederate Battle Flag wasn't put there until the 1960s. South Carolina never flew it during the civil war."

The flag currently is located next to the statue honoring South Carolina Confederate soldiers on the Statehouse grounds. The Confederate Battle flag was carried by numerous South Carolina regiments during the war.

BillyBoy says: "Your great grand granddaddy marching around with it in other states during the war to defend slavery doesn't count and is not relevant to the thread's topic about whether it belongs on the state capitol grounds.

My South Carolina ancestors defended Charleston, SC against the British during the American Revolution and later against invading Yankees.

The 26th South Carolina Infantry Regiment participated in the following battles:

Jackson Siege, Mississippi (July 1863)
Charleston Harbor, South Carolina (August - September 1863)
Bermuda Hundred, Virginia (17 May - 16 June 1864)
Petersburg Siege, Virginia (June 1864 - April 1865)
The Crater, Virginia (30 July 1864)
Ft. Stedman, Virginia (25 March 1865)
Five Forks, Virginia (1 April1865)
Appomattox Court House, Virginia (9 April 1865)

[Oshkalaboomboom]

David Beasley (R) didn’t actually remove the flag, he merely came out in favor of it’s removal. I believe the rat legislature tuned down his request.

The rat who beat him in 1998, Jim Hodges, avoiding mentioning the flag and played both sides.

Thanks for the historical update. It was George Pataki, speaking on the Fox News program Outnumbered, who said that a Republican governor took it down and a Rat put it back up.