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Charleston Mother Emanuel AME Church Shooting – Discussion Thread…
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | June 18, 2015 | sundance

Posted on 06/18/2015 3:13:35 AM PDT by Bratch

A man walks into a church and shoots nine people dead; that’s terrorism regardless of race.  If the shooting was based on race, then it’s a racist hate crime and terrorism, period.

The number one objective of everyone in law enforcement should be to catch the mass murder suspect and bring him to trial.  As currently described that suspect is: “A 21-year-old, white male, with sandy blonde hair, clean shaven, wearing Timberland boots, jeans and a grey hoodie“.  Every resource should be deployed to catch that criminal.

“Every resource” includes the principle that this horrific crime should be treated with the same intensity as the Boston Marathon bombing.   Every resource in the arsenal of local, state and federal law enforcement should be immediately dispatched to catch this person, period.


Unfortunately, this horrible event will focus attention in many divergent directions based solely on the current environment permeating the national dialogue; and as a consequence of manipulative activists who relish anxiety to advance their various causes.

For those who have intensely followed the evolution of that manipulation for the past several years, the brutal event in Charlotte carries a set of additional aspects which ring immediate alarm bells.   Taken individually none of the aspects seem too controversial; however, when you put them together something else begins to assemble.

WIPING CLEAR THE WHITE BOARD – Just the facts:

♦  One of the first set of facts about the event that is immediately recognizable is the location, the Mother Emanuel AME Church of Charlotte.

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There are 10 AME churches within a mile in any direction of the Emanuel AME church.  The shooter chose this specific one.

Anyone who has spent time deconstructing fraudulent racial narratives over the past few years will immediately recognize, and admit, the AME church network is the most politically -and racially- connected network of affiliates in the nation.

The AME network is the faith based power structure for the professional Black Grievance Industry.

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• When Pigford I and Pigford II claims were constructed, publicized and paid, it was the AME network who did the heavy lifting to promote the programs on behalf of their constituents – entirely along racial lines.

• When Sanford Florida was organizing their activism against the city and justice system, in the Trayvon Martin shooting, it was the AME church network who organized the community – entirely along racial lines.

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• When Sybrina Fulton and Tracy Martin did their coast to coast tour to promote Justice for Trayvon with Reverend Al Sharpton, it was the AME church network that hosted the events and filled the trashcans with contributions.

• When Ferguson riots broke out, it was the AME church network who were at the forefront of the advocacy – entirely along racial lines.

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• When the Baltimore riots broke out, it was again the AME church network, Reverend Jamal Bryant, who was at the forefront of the advocacy – entirely along racial lines.

The AME church network, and the associated leadership within the construct, is extremely politically connected.   Many of the social justice warriors, the social engineers, the social activists, weave in and out of the AME affiliations as needed; including activist financier Russell Simmons – entirely along racial lines.

In short the national AME church network is a powerful and political activist forum based solely and completely along racial lines.  Decades of influence, and decades of organizational activism has left them sparsely connected to their religious, or faith based, origins.  The AME larger network is now almost exclusively a political enterprise operating under the guise of Methodist Episcopal faith-based teaching.

♦  Coincidentally, or not, yesterday Hillary Clinton was campaigning in South Carolina, North Charleston specifically, for this very specific constituency.   The pastor of the exact church selected by the gunman was at a campaign event with Hillary for this purpose.

On a campaign stop in the city Wednesday, Clinton spoke passionately about police violence, calling Scott’s death a “terrible tragedy.” She left the city before the shooting occurred, a campaign aide confirmed.

Pastor Pinckney returned after the event to the AME church, where Bible study was underway Wednesday around 9:00 p.m. local time when the shooting occurred (link)

Pastor Clementa C. Pinckney (42) was one of the shooting victims, as reported by media.

BREAKING: State Sen. & Rev. Clementa Pinckney Among Shooting Victims at Charleston Church - http://t.co/vuiOxFg43L pic.twitter.com/M5wvYRPjQY

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 18, 2015

Because of the AME national network we can expect this horrific shooting to be magnified by infinite magnitudes amid those who are skilled in the dark arts of professional grievance and race-based activism.

Rev. Clements Pinckney, a SC legislator is among the 9 killed in SC church. I am reminded that he helped lead our prayer vigil for Scott.

— Reverend Al Sharpton (@TheRevAl) June 18, 2015

Reverend Al Sharpton Is Headed To Charleston, National Action Network Confirms

— Breaking911 (@Breaking911) June 18, 2015

Because of the AME national network of political influence we can also expect this horrific shooting to be amplified by responses of those who hold political office from coast to coast.

And when you add into the mix the current climate of racial division being utilized by the media and the professionally aggrieved for profit and ideological advancement you can begin to see how explosive the situation will be in the days, weeks and possibly even months to come.

Much of that anticipatory outcome we previously outlined, even before last nights’ horrific events, in the predictive discussions around Baltimore (Freddie Gray) and North Charleston (Walter Scott). ~ HERE ‘Danger Will Robinson’

That is why capturing this shooter is of paramount importance.  There is much at stake if our nation is to head off a summer of race-based anxiety, pushing toward violence.  And it bothers us that President Obama and Eric Holder intentionally allowed Ferguson to burn after they knew on August 18th 2014, within 10 days of the Mike Brown shooting, the evidence supported Officer Darren Wilson 100%.

THE SHOOTING – A young man walks into a church and successfully shoots and kills 9 people, intentionally leaving a single person to bear witness.  Why?

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If this report is factually true, surely people will begin to wonder “why”.  What possible benefit (to the shooter) is there to leaving a witness?  Why would the shooter be committed to leaving a witness “so she could tell everyone what happened“?  Who benefits?

Assuming the man was not holding a semi-automatic long gun, which would have alarmed the congregants, we can essentially conclude he was in possession of a handgun of sorts.

Successfully shooting, and killing, 9 out of 10 people – with a handgun – and no surviving victims, is considerably more difficult than is seen via Hollywood or TV.  People run quickly in the face of threats, people move, people generally scatter.

Successfully disappearing after the event, and evading capture, is even more alarming.

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The police Chief, Gregory Mullen, stated the shooting began at 9:05pm.   By 9:35 the first twitter reports of a mass casualty shooting showed police swarming the area.

The same police chief immediately identified the shooting as a “hate crime”; we can assume based on information provided by the surviving witness.

Mullen also said the shooter was “21-years-old”, and wearing “Timberland” boots.  Again, two very specific identifiable details inferring witness ID.

An unconfirmed source said there was a meeting of AME network leadership prior to the Bible Study which began at 9:05pm.  The shooter had to anticipate a gathering of sorts, which implies local affiliation, or extensive research into the venue.   A quick review of the Emanuel AME calendar on their website would not identify any event, and their Facebook page has not been updated since February 11th, 2015.

If we assume the racist/terrorist motive, which we have no reason not to, how did the shooter know he would find his victims at 9:00pm – in this specific location?

Lots of questions, and if they don’t ID a suspect quickly – it would appear to be very thought out, disciplined, and professionally executed.   Yet the shooter went to the non-professional trouble of intentionally leaving a witness to ID him.  It seems like there’s a bigger agenda in here.

All very troubling.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: South Carolina
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To: WildHighlander57

Day X. Enrage a few million blacks. Very Salt-esque.


81 posted on 06/18/2015 6:04:17 AM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder what Slick and Cankles did with the rent a dogs now they have grandbaby for optics?)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Obamugabe’s Reichstag Fire?


82 posted on 06/18/2015 6:14:53 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Let's put the ship of state on Cruz Control with Ted Cruz.)
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To: Bigg Red

Okay that’s work too!


83 posted on 06/18/2015 6:15:48 AM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder what Slick and Cankles did with the rent a dogs now they have grandbaby for optics?)
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To: KeyLargo
I can see that involvement, but it usually attaches later in the development of the incident and case. Not all crimes are presumed to be hate crimes, and many that are in fact hate crimes are not prosecuted as hate crimes.

I know selective enforcement and involvement is the way our legal system works, it's just interesting to see it pop up.

84 posted on 06/18/2015 6:19:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: stevie_d_64

I agree, but so far any kind of shootings like this have been perpetrated by some sort of democrat operative.

I just heard on the radio (WTAM 1100) that the killer is reported to have said, “I have to do this.” Interesting statement.

The ‘hate crime’ meme provides awesome cover and even a false flag trigger event!

Who wins if the country spins into race riot/war? Don’t forget all the conspiracy stuff that’s been floating about an event late this summer...

As far as smarter people having more information? You really think the media is going to go off meme? You have more faith in them than I do.


85 posted on 06/18/2015 6:23:31 AM PDT by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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To: Cboldt

FBI opening hate crime investigation
Police to release details on mass shooting at Charleston church
Published On: Jun 18 2015 05:27:47 AM CDT Updated 25 m


86 posted on 06/18/2015 6:23:47 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
has an Indonesian or Phillipino coloring."

These cropped photos going around give that appearance, but look at the photo at Drudgereport.com or the photos at the dailymail.co.uk

87 posted on 06/18/2015 6:28:43 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Bratch
At least he didn't use an AR. May the family's find justice.
88 posted on 06/18/2015 6:38:47 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Bratch
A man walks into a church and shoots nine people dead; that’s terrorism regardless of race. If the shooting was based on race, then it’s a racist hate crime and terrorism, period.

Well said - good job Conservative Treehouse.

89 posted on 06/18/2015 7:09:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (Why are black people afraid to live with each other?)
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To: Bigg Red

And Jade Helm rolled out just in time. Whew that was close. I am surprised that more don’t pick up on this staged crap.


90 posted on 06/18/2015 7:15:35 AM PDT by Cats Pajamas (Wonder what Slick and Cankles did with the rent a dogs now they have grandbaby for optics?)
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To: Old Sarge

Good assessment.


91 posted on 06/18/2015 7:17:28 AM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: RandallFlagg

The perpetrator’s photo is released. He doesn’t have “sandy blonde hair.” He has black hair showing from underneath a wig.


92 posted on 06/18/2015 7:37:33 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: ViLaLuz

Never trust “surveillance” photos. Most are taken in poor lighting with $19.99 cameras.


93 posted on 06/18/2015 7:44:48 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault
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To: Right Wing Assault
I know what you mean, but the lighting looks good here.


94 posted on 06/18/2015 7:53:48 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Well, you were right about poor camera image. .. you can ignore my last post. the suspect really does have sandy blonde hair. Eating my words now.


95 posted on 06/18/2015 2:45:15 PM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Bratch; All

Is the honeymoon over yet???

When will the truth behind the AME politically activist network be broadcast???

Who has the journalistic guts to tell the truth about this tax-exempt church???

I wonder...

Are we waiting a certain amount of time, maybe after the last funerals, and something else dominates the 24/7 news cycle, before the truth is revealed???

I mean we can sit here and comment on this particular aspect all day, and what will it do???

Until the tragedy of the shooting wanes, and the “victims” are buried...Who will come forward in a major network and tell the truth behind this network...


96 posted on 06/19/2015 3:42:52 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: stevie_d_64

So that means the shootings were OK?


97 posted on 06/19/2015 3:46:20 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

Nope...I apologize if you assumed I meant that with my post...

Far from it...


98 posted on 06/19/2015 3:57:55 PM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I will settle for a "perfectly good, gently used" kidney...Apply within...)
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To: MrBambaLaMamba

What photos?


99 posted on 01/18/2018 10:30:04 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: Old Sarge

Timeline of events:

Tuesday 6/16/15

-It is announced that Jeb Bush is running for President

-It is also announced that Donald Trump is running for President

-Morsi sentenced to life in prison by Egyptian government

-leader of AQAP killed by drone strike along with Belmokhtar who was involved with Libya, killed in a separate attack

-Wikileaks email on Hillary to be speaking at a job training at Trident Technical College in South Carolina

6/17/15

Hillary meets Clementa Pinckney in early afternoon

Hillary apparently gives a speech at Trident Technical College in Charleston, Sotuh Carolina

Clementa Pinckney and 8 others are reportedly shot at a church prayer meeting

Afterwards:

a journalist writes a column about how the confederate flag was allowed to be flown after the Civil War and states that it shouldn’t have been

A movement starts to remove Confederate statues and ban the confederate flag

8/11/17 removal of Confederate statues and a “Unite the Right” rally trigger the Charlottesville riots.

Similarities the dates have:

6/16/15
8/11/17 the years digits add up to the month for each of these two events

If the year digit was one higher 16 instead of 15 and 18 instead of 17 the dates would be the same forwards and backwards.

Both dates were a Wednesday.

Other possibly significant facts:

Clementa Pinckney had been a member of the same fraternity that Cornell West who was there at Charlottesville during the riots was also in, Alpha Phi Alpha.

Pinckney had once promised to get a port built in his district.

Pinckney had been on a humanitarian delegation sent to Haiti in 2010.


100 posted on 01/18/2018 10:59:38 PM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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