Posted on 06/13/2015 6:58:07 AM PDT by TNMOUTH
Maybe some of you FREEPERS who bash Cruz for supporting TPA and who hold Jeff Sessions up as being a new hero for Americans....
Can you tell me WHY he supported CAFTA? Doesn't CAFTA give back door access to illegal immigration? Doesn't this hurt the American worker?
Inquiring minds want to know.
How many jobs did Americans lose in Texas due to NAFTA? What kind of jobs were they? And how many of those jobs were taken by immigrants, legal and illegal? How have wages grown in Texas? You can believe all the BS spewed out by these politicians to justify their actions. I don't.
So, Cruz is lying about jobs in TX then?
If he is intimating that the impressive job growth in Texas can be attributed to NAFTA, he is full of it.
If he is intimating that the impressive job growth in Texas can be attributed to NAFTA, he is full of it.
I appreciate your time in putting your post together and disagree with essentially none of it. The problems you state are built into our phony money based financial system and a Congress and a Presidency that will never, ever learn to live within their means.
Given that, we are trading paper that can be made worthless in the twink of Fed Chairman’s eye for real stuff. I don’t like that. I don’t like the fact that we run trade deficits with so many countries but the alternative is some variant on isolationism. That doesn’t work ether.
As to China: Well they are a big country with a large population. There is very little we can do to limit their ambitions even if we tried. My view is that having a business relationship with them that is valuable to them is the best way to avoid conflicts. Right now they have a very good customer: That’s you and me and lot of other people running around town with their iPads and iPhones.
But, in the end, I am quite sympathetic to your POV.
Phony straw-man. No one is saying that we should be isolationist. We should, however, protect our workers and our economy. We became the world's biggest economy and still had tariffs and other protectionist measures. In fact, the EU, China, and Japan have various ways to prevent foreign goods from penetrating their markets.
Free trade is good for lowering prices for goods, which helps everyone. But, the loss of jobs and depressed wages is a tough price to pay.
As to China: Well they are a big country with a large population. There is very little we can do to limit their ambitions even if we tried. My view is that having a business relationship with them that is valuable to them is the best way to avoid conflicts.
In the short term, perhaps. In the long run, they will want to exercise their economic and military power to become dominant. They don't share our values and our generosity of spirit. China will not be a defender of democratic ideals and values. They are Communists with a different world view. Human rights are an anathema to them. As we decline as a nation, so will the rights of the individual around the world. When it comes to defending natural rights, the US is the indispensable nation. That will become more and more apparent as our power and influence decline.
Right now they have a very good customer: That’s you and me and lot of other people running around town with their iPads and iPhones.
Those products were invented in the US. It is cheaper to make them in China.
When you think about it does that really happen? If it costs 5% less to make and re import product to the USA from China, does the consumer really get that 5%? If so why did the corporation move it's factory in the first place? It was for the bottom line not the consumer.
A good candidate must not agree with me. He or she must follow the Constitution and defend our sovereignty.
Those products were invented in the US. It is cheaper to make them in China.
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Exactly. Should we stop doing that? Should Apple stop exporting jobs?
We could probably do that for a couple of hundred bucks per device. Apple manufacturing employment would be up. Apple automation would be up. Apple would sell fewer iGadgets. Apple sales employment would decline. Fewer people would have iPhones and iPads. Sales to China would decline, probably dramatically.
Personally, I would stick with the current plan.
You mean just like how Rand Paul supports Obama’s policy towards the Castro regime by normalizing relations with the dictatorship commie Castro regime ?
And send them aid ?
But yet some Rand Paul supports want aid to be cut off from Israel ?
You mean Rand Castro ?
Who supports Obama’s policy of normalizing a relationship with the commie dictatorship in Cuba and giving them aid ?
Rand Paul who wants to give amnesty to the black criminal community because whitey has been to harsh on those innocent thugs ?
Rand Paul who wants the GOP to openly embrace the queers ?
Rand Paul who wants to reduce defense spending to dangerous levels ?
But it only becomes relevant to the Cruz bashers when Ted Cruz voted for it inspite of the fact of how long it’s been in existence.
Another curious thing ?
How come they ain’t bashing Sarah Palin since it was her who campaign for Ted Cruz and supported him ?
My my, that is curious, isn’t it ?
Some already have, they are atheist.
If the veil were to be removed the truth could be that SOME of them are not upset with the Free Trade deal, that’s a ploy, the truth of the matter could be some other issue that Ted Cruz is against, like gay marriage, welcoming with opens arms into the GOP queers into the party.
Ted’s convictions and him wearing faith on his sleeve does not appeal to some atheist.
They could be just trying to find a chink in his armor to bring him down and use the Free Trade as a wedge issue.
I have moved on as have half Cruz’s supporters. Sorry. :-)
But Scott Walker is a governor and couldn’t have voted on it, it was his option !!!! sarcasm.
Yeah, I’d say that is very curious, Scott Walker comes out in favor of the Trade Deal and the Rand Paul supports are quiet about that, but attack Ted Cruz over it, talk about being disingenuous.
Kind of shows just where this group of attacks are coming from.
But yet ?
How do they defend Rand Paul supporting Obama’s policy on the commie dictatorship Castro regime and opening up normal relations with our enemy ? And give them aid to.
They could be just trying to find a chink in his armor to bring him down and use the Free Trade as a wedge issue.
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My take as well.
Jeff Sessions the new “Hero” at the moment. Take a look at his voting record on free trade.
http://www.ontheissues.org/International/Jeff_Sessions_Free_Trade.htm
I thought this one was interesting. I didn’t think TPP even included China.
Vote to give permanent Normal Trade Relations [NTR] status to China. Currently, NTR status for China is debated and voted on annually.
Oops, sorry P-Marlowe was trying to respond to another thread. Sorry for the double post you already saw it was meant for someone else.
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