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Why I Defaulted on My Student Loans (Inside the mindset of the liberal entitlement philosophy)
New York Times ^ | June 6, 2015 | LEE SIEGEL

Posted on 06/08/2015 5:27:26 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey

Years later, I found myself confronted with a choice that too many people have had to and will have to face. I could give up what had become my vocation (in my case, being a writer) and take a job that I didn’t want in order to repay the huge debt I had accumulated in college and graduate school.

Or I could take what I had been led to believe was both the morally and legally reprehensible step of defaulting on my student loans, which was the only way I could survive without wasting my life in a job that had nothing to do with my particular usefulness to society.I chose life. That is to say, I defaulted on my student loans.

As difficult as it has been, I’ve never looked back. The millions of young people today, who collectively owe over $1 trillion in loans, may want to consider my example.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: 3rdthread; costofcolleges; donatetoday; duplicate; liberalentitlement
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To: pepsionice
the gov’t itself ought to keep you from a unlimited dimwit attitude of taking as much money as they might offer you.

We disagree. The government should not decide how much money you borrow or for what you use it.

81 posted on 06/08/2015 7:15:51 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: rey
I agree that debtor prisons are not a good idea. And I agree with your observation that this most likely back fire him IF the laws do not get changed. Many Dems are looking to change those laws and regulations. The result is that we will have a new entitlement. Think health care.
82 posted on 06/08/2015 7:19:56 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (Is it too late to save the country?)
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To: Pollster1
I'd be happy with Walker or Cruz, he had better do a thorough job of undoing these eight years of damage.
Given that the Loonie-Left will become (even more) vicious and insane when the next Prez attempts the undoing, I think Walker would be best for that job given what he went through in Wisconsin.
But quite frankly, I don't care if Pee Wee Herman wins, as long as he puts this country back on the path to Constitutionality.
83 posted on 06/08/2015 7:21:42 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: pepsionice
I think all college loans ought to be limited to $30,000.

Just give both sides nuclear weapons. Make the loans discharchable in bankruptcy. College costs will drop like a rock when loan officers start looking at SAT scores and tying the loans to hard science classes.

84 posted on 06/08/2015 7:24:26 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: thackney
We disagree. The government should not decide how much money you borrow or for what you use it.

Absolutely true IF they are not the ones lending the money. If they are, like a private bank, then they have every right to make these demands.

85 posted on 06/08/2015 7:24:50 AM PDT by Sir_Humphrey (Is it too late to save the country?)
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To: thackney

Wonderful decision....so hundreds of thousand of dimwits have taken loans that half will simply default and leave the burden to the public. It’s the same with mortgages that leave some idiot the idea that he can buy a $400,000 house when he only makes $40,000 a year and pays next to nothing on the down-payment. I’d rather see it as personal responsibility, but you can’t convince some kid getting a degree in French literature that he’ll never be able to pay back $90,000 that he takes out for a long-term loan.


86 posted on 06/08/2015 7:25:54 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Poison Pill

Man, if you tie SAT scores into this....a kid like Al Gore would never have been able to attend college.


87 posted on 06/08/2015 7:27:12 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Sir_Humphrey

And the problem is not that they don’t set enough limitations, it is that the government uses tax payer dollars to compete with private business.


88 posted on 06/08/2015 7:27:36 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: pepsionice

The problem is not the lack of additional government regulation, the problem is the government lending out tax payer dollars to individuals.


89 posted on 06/08/2015 7:28:34 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: GOPJ
If truly his mother, an angel, did cosign there is another cosigner him. He now has to pay the loan. He thinks he is off Scott free. Wrong you cheater! You now owe the loan all by yourself.

Have three daughters and offered to pay for college instead of a wedding. All took the education. I did had control over their major. They graduated with environmental science, teacher and international business degrees. I spent 20 years paying off their college, all state schools. I didn't run away from the loans. They were my responsibility. Unlike the writer, I accept my responsibilities and paid them off.

90 posted on 06/08/2015 7:29:39 AM PDT by Kozy
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To: Sir_Humphrey

This is just proof that some degrees are worth more than others.

The fluff degrees were viewed as degrees for those who would be living in the ivory tower teaching the fluff courses to those who had “real” degrees and the fluff was to make them well rounded individuals.

Of course those days fluff meant literature, or social sciences. Not radical PC studies.


91 posted on 06/08/2015 7:44:09 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Maine Mariner

Forgiven debt is taxable income.


92 posted on 06/08/2015 7:48:41 AM PDT by Hyman Roth
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To: ealgeone
This loser should never be able to borrow another dime for the rest of his life.

These losers should never be able to borrow another dime for the rest of their lives.

Non PC constructions.

93 posted on 06/08/2015 7:53:19 AM PDT by arthurus (It's true!)
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To: OpusatFR
I worked as a janitor for a housing complex to pay for my education. I wasn’t too good for that work.

I didn't know that was still possible. During my sophomore and junior years I worked as a janitor in university housing to pay for my housing. During my senior year I dried glasses in the dorm dining room to help pay for meals. However, that was over 60 years ago. I'm glad to know people can stil do t hings like that.

94 posted on 06/08/2015 7:56:36 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( book, RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY, available from Amazon)
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To: Sir_Humphrey

We already know why. It’s because you’re a lying deadbeat.


95 posted on 06/08/2015 8:09:50 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: ealgeone

“The DOE should pursue this loser and dock any proceeds from his illustrious writing career until his debt is paid. If not someone else has had to pay it.”

Two things about that :

1> He’s probably close to retirement already. It really wouldn’t matter.

2> The New York Times printed this drivel. I’ll bet we just saw what part of the POTUS debate will be next year.

I’d actually risk agreeing with the lib-trash on canceling student loan debt so long as all federal subsidies to universities are cut to offset Federal commitments that back guaranteed loans (not rate of growth cut ... I mean a real cut to $0 and loans are limited to $30K). After all, it’d be for the children, right, and we’d be focusing on making college affordable? What’s another trillion dollars in the grand scheme of things? The mass layoffs in useless departments and the subsequent whining would be worth it.


96 posted on 06/08/2015 8:14:02 AM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: Night Hides Not

I noticed none of his books get better than a 3 star rating as well. Probably from the one reader of his books, his wife.


97 posted on 06/08/2015 8:15:49 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: pepsionice
a kid like Al Gore would never have been able to attend college.

Mr. Gore, this is Bob Smithers over at Wells Fargo. I just got the results of your P Chem midterm and, well......

98 posted on 06/08/2015 8:21:00 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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To: Sir_Humphrey
And here folks is the "money" line to me:

But I have found, after some decades on this earth, that the road to character is often paved with family money and family connections, not to mention the 14 percent effective tax rates on seven-figure incomes.

As I get older and read stuff like this I wonder if the tenth commandment isn't the most important commandment. He wanted to do this the trust fund way, and not have to sweat the small stuff. The average American way is tough, takes time and sacrifice. I think the people that can stomach that make us great.

99 posted on 06/08/2015 8:29:06 AM PDT by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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To: super7man
I am proud to say that my daughter and her husband paid off their student loans of $60K within 3 years of graduating and getting jobs. It was their first priority.

They’d be really mad if Obama started forgiving student loans.

They did the right thing.

Yes, this is the right thing to do, to pay off the loans and not shirk the responsibility as the author of the article did.

My son's student loans were probably close to what your daughter and her husband paid off. He and his wife were fortunate they were offered teaching positions in a brand new charter school in Douglas County, Colorado, the day before graduation. They live frugally and as with your daughter and son-in-law, will get the loans paid off within a 3 year time period, in September 2016. Then maybe they'll start looking for a house.

100 posted on 06/08/2015 8:39:43 AM PDT by rochester_veteran (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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