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Rand Paul’s ISIS Delusions [Why Democrats are to blame for the rise of ISIS]
FrontPage Mag ^ | 06/05/2015 | Arnold Ahlert

Posted on 06/05/2015 7:01:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 06/05/2015 7:01:42 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

We don’t have to worry about Paul in the Primary, he is done.

He does have Dem appeal too but if an establishment candidate wins the nomination and Paul runs as an independent, the GOP is sunk.


2 posted on 06/05/2015 7:33:22 AM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

It really is this simple

No Iraq war in 2003, no ISIS.

Saddam keeps a boot on their throat, and keeps its current leaders employed (since most are simply ex-Baathists)


3 posted on 06/05/2015 8:08:27 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Bushlicans saw mushroom clouds and knocked off Saddam’s Iraq who was the counter force to Iran. So ISIS appeared out of these clouds and we have enemies everywhere.

We have a choice of either saying it’s not our war and let Allah sort it out or send enough troops to defeat, disarm and occupy them for a century or two.


4 posted on 06/05/2015 8:45:13 AM PDT by ex-snook (To conquer use Jesus, not bombs.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Obama owns the rise of ISIS.


5 posted on 06/05/2015 9:15:38 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: SeekAndFind

ISIS has a few causes at least, I won’t get into that.

Even though this one woman I watched on CSPAN promoted an anti-Iraq war agenda, she said “Eliminate 1 Hussein and you get a 1000 Osamas”, something like this and that is worthy of considering.


6 posted on 06/05/2015 9:22:36 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: MadIsh32

It started in Libya


7 posted on 06/05/2015 11:46:16 AM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

Would ISIS exist if we didn’t spend trillions booting Saddam out?


8 posted on 06/05/2015 12:49:59 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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Rand Paul On Shutdown: "Even Though It Appeared I Was Participating In It, It Was A Dumb Idea"
I said throughout the whole battle that shutting down the government was a dumb idea. Even though it did appear as if I was participating in it, I said it was a dumb idea. And the reason I voted for it, though, is that it's a conundrum. Here's the conundrum. We have a $17 trillion debt and people at home tell me you can't give the president a blank check. We just can't keep raising the debt ceiling without conditions. So unconditionally raising the debt ceiling, nobody at home wants me to vote for that and I can't vote for that. But the conundrum is if I don't we do approach these deadlines. So there is an impasse. In 2011, though, we had this impasse and the president did negotiate. We got the sequester. If we were to extend the sequester from discretionary spending to all the entitlements we would actually fix our problem within a few years.
[Posted on 11/19/2013 12:16:51 PM by Third Person]
Rand Paul: Time for GOP to soften war stance
...by softening its edge on some volatile social issues and altering its image as the party always seemingly "eager to go to war... We do need to expand the party and grow the party and that does mean that we don't always all agree on every issue" ... the party needs to become more welcoming to individuals who disagree with basic Republican doctrine on emotional social issues such as gay marriage... "We're going to have to be a little hands off on some of these issues ... and get people into the party," Paul said.
[Posted on 01/31/2013 5:08:50 PM PST by xzins]
Rand Paul's immigration speech
...The Republican Party must embrace more legal immigration.

Unfortunately, like many of the major debates in Washington, immigration has become a stalemate-where both sides are imprisoned by their own rhetoric or attachment to sacred cows that prevent the possibility of a balanced solution.

Immigration Reform will not occur until Conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation.

Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport 12 million illegal immigrants.

If you wish to work, if you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you...

This is where prudence, compassion and thrift all point us toward the same goal: bringing these workers out of the shadows and into being taxpaying members of society.

Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers.12 million more people assimilating into society. 12 million more people being productive contributors.
[Posted on 03/19/2013 7:04:07 AM PDT by Perdogg]
Rand Paul calls on conservatives to embrace immigration reform
Latinos, should be a natural constituency for the party, Paul argued, but "Republicans have pushed them away with harsh rhetoric over immigration." ...he would create a bipartisan panel to determine how many visas should be granted for workers already in the United States and those who might follow... [and the buried lead] "Imagine 12 million people who are already here coming out of the shadows to become new taxpayers...
[Posted on 04/21/2013 1:52:42 PM PDT by SoConPubbie]
[but he's not in favor of amnesty, snicker, definition of is is]
Rand Slams Congress for Funding Egypt's Generals: 'How Does Your Conscience Feel Now?'
Sen. Rand Paul is hammering his fellow senators for keeping billions in financial aid flowing to Egypt's military -- even as Cairo's security forces massacre anti-government activists. [by "anti-government activists" is meant church-burning Christian-murdering jihadists]
[Posted on 08/15/2013 5:44:10 PM PDT by Hoodat]

9 posted on 06/05/2015 1:11:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
[snip] All of the above, coupled with the administration's inexplicable refusal to arm Kurdish fighters willing to take on ISIS, and the calculated ineffectiveness of the airstrikes Americans were told -- eight months ago -- would be more than enough to "degrade and defeat" the terrorist organization, makes one thing clear: the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton, not the GOP, owns the rise of these bloodthirsty savages. [/snip]
Gosh, it's almost as if Rand, just like his daddy, is Democrat in all but name.
10 posted on 06/05/2015 1:12:15 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: MadIsh32

Yes


11 posted on 06/05/2015 2:22:36 PM PDT by dila813
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Would ISIS exist if we didn’t withdraw early vs. the advice of Generals?

Would ISIS exist if it hadn’t been for the Arab spring?

Would ISIS exist if Assad didn’t handle his own Sunni population and population in general with an iron fist.

Seems most of the action is in Syria.


http://www.aol.com/article/2015/06/05/u-s-quietly-starts-channeling-arms-from-1-6-billion-fund-to-ir/21192013/?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl2|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D1960781001

This aol video said 10,000 ISIS fighters have died in the past 9 months, trouble is, these guys are suicidal, that is a factor as well.


12 posted on 06/05/2015 2:31:01 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter

Likely killed 10k and wounded another 30k and displaced 1.4M


13 posted on 06/05/2015 4:46:24 PM PDT by dila813
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To: SeekAndFind

Looks like Rand Paul is delusional by drinking to much Kentucky Moonshine.

Rand Paul, the 2016 Court Jester.


14 posted on 06/05/2015 10:24:47 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: SunkenCiv

Sounds more like a resume for a Liberal Democrat canidate then a Conservative.

But we are wise to what Rand Paul is really up to here, he is just a fake conservative liberal plant to fool voters into thinking he’s a real conservative so a true conservative wont win.


15 posted on 06/05/2015 10:29:19 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: Vaduz

Amen, to blame it on the Republicans is the same as what Obama and the liberal media does all the time.


16 posted on 06/05/2015 10:31:13 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: American Constitutionalist

/bingo


17 posted on 06/06/2015 4:32:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: dila813

How so? Where does an ISIS gain a foothold in Saddam’s Iraq?


18 posted on 06/06/2015 11:08:45 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: MadIsh32

Saddam would be supporting ISIS, they are part of the same Islamic sect.

Many of the main brains in ISIS are ex-Iraq Saddam Trusted Military.


19 posted on 06/06/2015 12:19:36 PM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

Exactly. ISIS are Baathists re-branded

These guys would instead have jobs and nice houses in Saddam’s Iraq, not splitting Iraq into 3 and trying to take over Syria. They’d have Saddam’s boot on their throat


20 posted on 06/07/2015 8:10:36 AM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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