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Public-Sector Jobs Vanish, Hitting Blacks Hard [1.8 million fewer jobs in public sector]
New York Times ^ | May 24, 2015 | PATRICIA COHEN

Posted on 05/25/2015 3:20:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

".....Roughly one in five black adults works for the government, teaching school, delivering mail, driving buses, processing criminal justice and managing large staffs. They are about 30 percent more likely to have a public sector job than non-Hispanic whites, and twice as likely as Hispanics.

The Labor Department counts half a million fewer public sector jobs than before the start of the recession in 2007...understates just how much the government’s work force has shrunk.... because it fails to account for the normal growth in the country’s population: Factor that in, she said, and there are 1.8 million fewer jobs in the public sector for people to fill.

The decline reverses a historical pattern, researchers say, with public sector employees typically holding onto their jobs even during most economic downturns.

Because blacks hold a disproportionate share of the jobs, relative to their share of the population, the cutbacks naturally hit them harder.

But black workers overall, women in particular, also lost their jobs at a higher rate than whites..“double disadvantage for black public sector workers...They are concentrated in a shrinking sector of the economy, and they are substantially more likely than other public sector workers to be without work.”.....

...Even now, with the economy regaining strength, public sector employment has still not bounced back. An incomplete recovery is part of the reason, but a combination of strong anti-government and anti-tax sentiment in some places has kept down public payrolls. At the same time, attempts to curb collective bargaining, like those led by Wisconsin’s governor, Scott Walker, a likely Republican presidential candidate, have weakened public unions.............

....some researchers and union officials also see a racial undercurrent in the campaigns.

“With public employment in general being under attack, it’s really an attack on these communities,” said Mr. Bodner of the Philadelphia transit workers union, referring to black people......"

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: black; economy; jobs; publicemployees
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

or, the writer is just wrong

I doubt it all


61 posted on 05/25/2015 5:37:46 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: rbg81; Arthur McGowan
But government revenues are up, not down. .... Guessing a lot of it goes to pay interest on Govt bonds.

Nope. It goes, as Arthur observed, mostly to fund ISIS and pay for more Democrats to get elected.

62 posted on 05/25/2015 5:39:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: Gen.Blather
It will transform life in numerous ways if it happens. It could have an impact on airlines, for example.

If someplace is more than a 6 hour drive, many people would prefer to fly.

What if it is a 12 hour drive, but I can sleep for 8 hours of it in my back seat and watch Netflix for the other 4?

63 posted on 05/25/2015 5:40:28 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: grania

Yes this article is quite racist. I love the use of Wisconsin, a very white state. Public sector jobs in Wisconsin are much more likely to be white. Also, public sector spending is up not down. Maybe someone should look into where the money goes. Government union dues is not supposed to be a growth business.

You know how many idiots read the NY Times on Sunday with their coffee. They read it from front to back. So, on Monday I have to listen to this garbage. They can never critically evaluate what they read. They just take it at face value. I think every English teacher and HR manager is on their delivery list.


64 posted on 05/25/2015 5:42:51 AM PDT by poinq
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To: wideawake

“many people would prefer to fly.”

I would choose to drive 12 hours now over flying. It’s not the flying part, it’s TSA. I don’t like being treated like dirt, which has happened twice while on business trips.


65 posted on 05/25/2015 5:43:20 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: fella

Ding! We have a winner!

Excellent one line summary of the intended take-away for that article.


66 posted on 05/25/2015 5:48:26 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My favorite line is this one near the beginning:

teaching school, delivering mail, driving buses, processing criminal justice and managing large staffs

You can see the editor. He tells the writer, “you can’t say that all black people do is deliver mail, drive buses and guard prisons. Throw in something that sounds good like, managing large staffs. And put teach school first.”


67 posted on 05/25/2015 5:52:42 AM PDT by poinq
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To: txrefugee
Over-paid, top-heavy government is always the death of a nation.

Check out the books by Author and Consultant Adizes....

(Escaped under fire from communist Yogoslavia)

...his take: ...death of a company follows bureaucracy.....and there is no known return from the death state.

more at: http://www.adizes.com/lifecycle/

68 posted on 05/25/2015 6:01:43 AM PDT by spokeshave
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Because blacks hold a disproportionate share of the jobs, relative to their share of the population, the cutbacks naturally hit them harder.


This is due to systematic and illegal racial harassment and discrimination.


69 posted on 05/25/2015 6:09:42 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Lazamataz

Well, there are Federal, State, and Local government revenue. Assumed this article was mostly addressing jobs from State and Local governments. Unlike the Federal Government, those cannot just print $$.


70 posted on 05/25/2015 6:11:29 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81

Local taxes also go to ISIS.


71 posted on 05/25/2015 6:14:45 AM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Still too many parasites and free loaders on the public sector. All they do is steal from those that work and contribute to society. The deficit and overspending can not go on forever. Cause of this mess - government. And voters who do not understand, or do not want to understand what is happening to their nation.


72 posted on 05/25/2015 6:35:44 AM PDT by mulligan (I)
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To: ameribbean expat
........We’ll see how excited the Democrats are about big government when it’s services are automated, run by systems administrators, and quantified results of various programs are obtained with the click of a mouse. Oh, and computers don’t take vacations, need health insurance, or... vote.

Republicans should be embracing the shift. But they’re stuck in some kind early 1960s fog. They can state their principles quite nicely, but they lack the ability to formulate policy alternatives.

bttt

73 posted on 05/25/2015 6:44:24 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Lazamataz
Silver line represents black males.

Gold line represents black females.

Years and workers info didn't transfer with graphic (go to source)

Source from thread article.

74 posted on 05/25/2015 6:50:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

No mention of how many of the fewer jobs are at the federal, state , county and local level. Guess the NYT just couldn’t possibly obtain that data.


75 posted on 05/25/2015 6:51:24 AM PDT by Will88
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To: wideawake
Think of how hard governments will fight against self-driving cars.

They'll just come up with another way to tax.

Electric cars? No problem, tax miles driven.

76 posted on 05/25/2015 6:51:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: poinq; Lazamataz

Also, neither Gov. Walker nor Gov. Scott appears to have been afforded an opportunity to reply.


77 posted on 05/25/2015 6:55:06 AM PDT by aposiopetic
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Need more government jobs?


78 posted on 05/25/2015 6:56:03 AM PDT by Leep ("Soon you won't be able to live in America as a Muslim. The noose is tightening," Elton Simpson)
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To: poinq
...Public sector jobs in Wisconsin are much more likely to be white. ....

"... According to 2010 census data, the City of Milwaukee has a population of 594,833.[7] Milwaukee is the main cultural and economic center of the Milwaukee–Racine–Waukesha Metropolitan Area with a population of 2,040,498 as of an official 2013 estimate. This ranks the region as the 29th most populous Combined Statistical Area of the United States...."

Milwaukee:

Racial composition 2010

White 44.8%
—Non-Hispanic 37.0%
Black or African American 40.0%
Hispanic or Latino (of any race) 17.3%
Asian 3.5%

79 posted on 05/25/2015 6:58:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: raybbr

We have so many state, county, Federal governments and governmental agencies that cannot be all lumped together. Many are filled with hard working dedicated men and women. But then you have lots of deadwood and incompetent liberals, lebsbians and affirmative action babies employed by the Federal government. They do nothing productive but collect very nice paychecks.

Part of the reason the DC Federal Government is so incompetent these days is it has too many incompetent affirmative action types working. Not just blacks, but gays, Hispanics, females, Aleutian Islanders, Samoans and so on. I am kind joking here but the last person who will hired is a qualified white heterosexual male.


80 posted on 05/25/2015 7:14:16 AM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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