Posted on 05/21/2015 8:09:52 AM PDT by xzins
HOMOSEXUALITYWed - 4:29 pm EST
Homosexuality , Poll
PRINCETON, NJ, May 20, 2015 (LifeSiteNews.com) -- For the first time, a majority of Americans say that homosexuals are "born that way."
According to the latest Gallup poll, 51 percent of Americans say that people are born gay or lesbian, while only 30 percent say outside factors such as upbringing and environment determine sexual orientation.
However, science would not bear that out. No fewer than eight major studies from around the world have found homosexuality is not a genetic condition.
Peter Sprigg of the Family Research Council says that these numerous, rigorous studies of identical twins have now made it impossible to argue that there is a "gay gene." If homosexuality were inborn and predetermined, then when one identical twin is homosexual, the other should be, as well.
Yet one study from Yale and Columbia Universities found homosexuality common to only 6.7 percent of male identical twins and 5.3 percent of female identical twins.
The low rate of common homosexuality in identical twins – around six percent – is easily explained by nurture, not nature.
Researchers Peter Bearman and Hannah Brueckner concluded that environment was the determining factor. They rejected outright that "genetic influence independent of social context" as the reason for homosexuality. "(O)ur results support the hypothesis that less gendered socialization in early childhood and preadolescence shapes subsequent same-sex romantic preferences."
"Less gendered socialization" means, a boy was without a positive father figure, or a girl was without a positive mother figure.
In light of the evidence, Sprigg said simply, "No one is born gay."
Psychiatrists William Byne and Bruce Parsons summarize the science: "Critical review shows the evidence favoring a biologic theory to be lacking. ... In fact, the current trend may be to underrate the explanatory power of extant psychosocial models." In other words, homosexuality is a psychological malady, not something people are born with.
Some homosexuals openly admit that their lifestyle is a choice. Lindsay Miller, who describes herself as a "queer woman," complained in The Atlantic monthly, "I get frustrated with the veiled condescension of straight people who believe that queers 'can't help it,' and thus should be treated with tolerance and pity.”
“I was not born this way,” she wrote. “The life I have now is not something I ended up with because I had no other options. Make no mistake – it's a life I chose.”
"It's time to send the 'born that way' myth to the graveyard of misbegotten ideas, buried in the plot next to the myth that the sun revolves around the earth,” Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association has written.
And yet, the myth continues to gain believers, even among conservatives. According to the new Gallup poll, Republicans are divided on whether Americans are born homosexual (40 percent) or whether same-sex orientation is determined by environmental factors (36 percent).
In previous polls, a majority of Republicans have said homosexuality is not innate. Now, according to this poll, they are equally likely to view sexual orientation as inherent, rather than a choice or a consequence of how people were raised. In all, 62 percent of Democrats believe homosexuals were born that way.
The issue affects Republican politicians who, like all politicians, base their public statements on the polls. Presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson recently apologized for merely suggesting people choose to be gay or lesbian. Sen. Marco Rubio has said that, while he does not support same-sex "marriage," he believes that people are born gay or lesbian.
Fischer says our society and particularly our presidential candidates should make policy based on medical and scientific reality, not polls. "If homosexual behavior is a choice, then our public policy can freely be shaped by an honest look at whether this behavioral choice is healthy and should be encouraged, or unhealthy and dangerous and consequently discouraged," he wrote.
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There is no debate over the health threats posed by engaging in the homosexual lifestyle. Fischer note that the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association admits homosexuals are at greater risk of AIDS, substance and alcohol abuse, depression and anxiety, hepatitis, STDs, and prostate and colon cancer.
"This is not behavior that any rational society should condone, endorse, subsidize, reward, promote or sanction in domestic policy or in the marketplace,” Fischer wrote. “It's a choice, and a bad one at that."
The Gallup poll, taken May 6-10, also reports a new record high number of Americans support same-sex "marriage."
The poll is based on telephone interviews with a random sample of 1,024 adults, aged 18 and older, living in the United States. The organization says its margin of sampling error is ±4 percentage points at the 95 percent confidence level.
That's the point. It was talking about a genetic advantage. There were no children, so they didn't pass anything along.
What do you think? Wouldn't any financial advantage a homosexual uncle might have passed on to a heterosexual niece, for example, have to be be seen from the standpoint that that niece would likely have reproduced anyway?
Oh, please! That equals .0003% of the population. Three one-thousandths of one percent.
Yep. Sampling the population is a tricky business, and we’ve learned that these kind of polls are easily manipulated.
Also the entertainment media is a willing participant in the deception. The elites there embrace any and all liberal agendas and present them in their programs as "the new normal".
Pat Caddell was going nuts about a poll a week or so ago that had a sample with 44% democrats to prove, iirc, that Hillary is doing just fine.
What's the chances that 'father' was doing that 'son' and turned him?
Is that 'recruitment via abuse' a legitimate reason to think homosexuality makes our culture, neighborhoods, more dangerous?
There was a thread here a few days ago that claimed the majority of Americans approve of socialism. When the internals were revealed further in the piece, the dims had a 55% favorable view while republicans were at 37%. In order for the results claimed, the dims would have to be oversampled to achieve a majority (50% +1) overall.
Who determines the polling samples? The people who want to get the results they are seeking. That could be either the pollsters or the people commissioning the polls.
And it’s only in election season that they report based on likely voters.
That 44% sample I mentioned would have itself been far worse for Hillary if only likely voters had been sampled. IIRC, the lady has had a permanent disapproval rating of about 42% for years.
Basically they are saying it is a one way choice street. You can become gay, but you can never go back. How does that fit with the gay gene original?
Gay marriage is oath to anal intercourse for life. It also forbids people from sharing each other’s genes inherently. It is a violation of civil rights because based in a racist marriage without gene share.
This is why they are trying to push the gay gene or racist gene eugenics program.
Anyway you have seen through the headline and understand how the polling architecture was skewed on the hildabeast approval poll.
Imagine how many people are just headline readers.
Wait, are you saying that Progressives are waging their own War on Science??
Hey, when the old media and homowood lie, people listen and believe.
As always, they pay attention only to the science that supports their hare-brained ideas.
Ask those that “feel” homos are born that way if they “feel” psychopaths and schizophrenics are born that way as well?
Even with a homosexual near relative, the odds of the mythical “gay gene” being passed to the next generation is reduced...so the argument is the same, that the gene self-selects for extinction, just more slowly (since, presumably, the niece or nephew of the gay person would be a potential carrier). I’m not buying that, though, because “self-selecting for extinction” is so completely counter to the whole idea of genetic science that it makes no sense...and, again, how would such a gene evolve in the first place?
Regarding SOME propagation of the mythical “gay gene,” this was/is possible where a gay person gets married due to societal pressures. Either there will be no kids because the person is firmly homosexual (no pun intended, kids), or there are less (1 or 2, vs. 3 or more) because some of the sexual energy of the gay person is expended upon people of the same gender who simply cannot reproduce. Either way - no propagation or less propagation - the mythical “gay gene” goes extinct after X number of generations, because it MUST do so - the math demands that this be so.
As a result, THERE IS SIMPLY NO WAY THAT THERE IS A “GAY GENE” (or a complex of them). This is behavior, folks, no two ways about it.
Being gay isn’t determined by a gene any more than there is a gene for heterosexuality.
At what point did you consider “hmmm, should I be gay or straight?” you never did. You are what you are.
There’s also no gene for right-handedness or left-handedness, or for people who prefer Asian women over other races, or for people who only like blondes, or people who like plumper people.
My brother is gay, and he was never abused (we’ve talked at length about this) and frankly, I knew he was probably before he knew he was.
People have all kinds of kinks and fetishes. How you got that way does not matter.
I am of the opinion that it’s none of my business what anyone likes to do in the bedroom any more than it’s any of anyone else’s business what I like to do in the bedroom. Pretty much anything two consenting adults decide to get up to, hey, don’t hurt anybody, don’t f*ck any kids or animals or incapacitated people who can’t give consent, and knock yourself out.
Yes, I know there are passages in the bible that say you shouldn’t do it. There are also passages that say I shouldn’t masturbate or eat shrimp cocktail or have a cheeseburger, and let me tell you, those are some of my favorite things to do.
Homosexuality is dangerous biologically, physically, socially, and spiritually. It's puts health at risk, it thrives on recruitment, particularly of the young, it results in early death to its practitioners, and it opposes Nature's God, since it glorifies the unnatural over the natural.
So,it hurts lots of people.
Most Americans are idiots.
I hate stating the obvious.
Homosexual anal sex is no more harmful than heterosexual anal sex, and there’s plenty of heterosexual anal sex going on. I’m not a fan of it, but some people are.
Oral or digital sex between people of the same sex or different sex is no more harmful one way or another.
I’ve known literally hundreds of gay people in my life. I worked for years in restaurants and I’ve never been afraid of them. Not once have I ever been “recruited”.
My relationship with Nature’s God is none of your concern.
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