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Talking about our right to Privacy, the damage to US companies from NSA Backdoors to encryped products, etc. I think he started sometime between 2:30 and 3:00 pm Eastern DST.

With the number of laws and regulation we've seen put in place in the last decade or so, the position of "I don't break the law, so I don't care if they look at my email, phone calls, etc" just doesn't make any sense. It is now impossible to know with any certainty whether we are breaking any laws or not, and indeed, for those with power, the law doesn't matter anyway! We've seen plenty examples of late of innocent people being put through the wringer by one agency or another. If you think all this collected date stays within the NSA, think again...

1 posted on 05/20/2015 12:22:30 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow
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He took the floor at 1:18pm EDT.


2 posted on 05/20/2015 12:25:21 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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I’m sorry, this isn’t included in my copy of the Patriot Act - I’ve just got the one which includes a load of invasive record keeping on Americans making very standard deposits in their accounts, recording of gold storage for later hoarding confiscation and whatnot. Which copy of the Patriot Act includes illegal phone tapping and bulk capture of phone records?


3 posted on 05/20/2015 12:25:31 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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WE have it on. We stand with Rand.


4 posted on 05/20/2015 12:26:24 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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I should have added - turn on your TV to c-span, even if you don't have time to watch. Help make the establishment see how many people DO care about this issue, by showing a spike in Cspan2 viewing. Or, contact your senator and tell them to support the filibuster!
5 posted on 05/20/2015 12:26:30 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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Not too long ago, there were rules:
UNITED STATES SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE DIRECTIVE (USSID) 18
LEGAL COMPLIANCE AND MINIMIZATION PROCEDURES (FOUO)

LETTER OF PROMULGATION


(U) this USSID prescribes policies and procedures and assigns responsibilities to ensure that the missions and functions of the United States SIGINT System (USSS) are conducted in a manner that safeguards the constitutional rights of U.S. persons.

(U) This USSID has been completely rewritten to make it shorter and easier to understand. It constitutes a summary of the laws and regulations directly affecting USSS operations. All USSS personnel who collect, process, retain, or disseminate information to, from, or about U.S. persons or persons in the United States must be familiar with its contents.

(FOUO) This USSID supercedes USSID 18 and USSID 18, Annex A (distributed separately to selected recipients), both of which are dated 20 October 1980, and must now be destroyed. Notify DIRNSA/CHSS (USSID Manager) if this edition of USSID 18 is destroyed because of an emergency action; otherwise, request approval from DIRNSA/CHSS before destroying this USSID.

(FOUO) Release or exposure of this document to contractors and consultants without approval from the USSID Manager is prohibited. Instructions applicable to release or exposure of USSID to contractors and consultants may be found in USSID 19.

(FOUO) Questions and comments concerning this USSID should be addressed to the Office of the General Counsel, NSA/CSS xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx NSTS 963-3121 or STU III 688-5015).

(SNIP)

SECTION 4 - COLLECTION

4.1 Communications to, from or About U.S. Persons and xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxx to the United States

a. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court Approval
b. Attorney General Approval
c. DIRNSA/CHSS Approval
d. Emergency Situations
e. Annual Reports


4.2 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
4.3 Incidental Acquisition of U.S. Person Information
4.4 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
4.5 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
4.6 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
4.7 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
4.8 Distress Signals
4.9 COMSEC Monitoring and Security Testing of Automated Information Systems


(&tc. &tc.)
Following the Patriot Act these seem to be guidelines now.
11 posted on 05/20/2015 12:33:42 PM PDT by struwwelpeter (I will lie down and sleep in peace, for you alone, O LORD, make me dwell in safety. - Psalm 4:8)
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Go Rand! And I say this as someone who supports Cruz for president... but Rand is a decent man.


12 posted on 05/20/2015 12:35:19 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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Good for Rand.

The fact that this is campaign gimmickry designed to bring him some headlines notwithstanding - This is still a good move.


14 posted on 05/20/2015 12:36:46 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility.)
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Senator Ron Wyden (D-Oregon), is on now - bipartisan opposition to renewal.
16 posted on 05/20/2015 12:44:50 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Government actions ALWAYS have unintended consequences...)
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lol

nice try Paul.

But, we aren’t buying it.


19 posted on 05/20/2015 12:51:16 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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You mean a politician cares about the constitution and the fourth amendment? Can’t be true... We need more control by our masters in the FedGov. How dare we think we have privacy rights - or to own guns... we need to be safe - because we are so scared. (our founders would laugh at our cowardly bowing and scraping to the FedGov machine)

This will make it difficult to do things like use a database of gun owners so the BAFTA can round up gun owners.

Or track anyone who disagrees with Lois Lerner.

Or has who has posted they don’t like the gay nazi’s - remember that is a hate crime in our brave new Federal government world.

How will they track down conservative republicans for extra IRS scrutiny if they don’t have a database of Americans private communications?

/sarc


26 posted on 05/20/2015 1:05:54 PM PDT by LibertyLA (fighting libtards and other giant government enablers!)
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The Fourth Amendment is certainly worth protecting, since our government isn’t.

Political correctness prevents ‘profiling’ so the government
has to monitor everyone to see if anyone is saying anything ‘terroristic’ or ‘extreme’.

Its ‘prevention’ liberal style and it infringes on the Constitutional rights of us all.


31 posted on 05/20/2015 1:31:17 PM PDT by Nextrush ( FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, DON'T BE PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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I’d like Cruz to join until the perfect sweeping of all electronic intercepts of American Citizens who are not under suspicion is suspended.


39 posted on 05/20/2015 1:59:57 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (ISIS: Islam's Reformation)
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Link For Rand’s filibuster...though currently someone else is speaking.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?326084-1/senator-rand-paul-rky-nsa-surveillance&live


40 posted on 05/20/2015 2:01:29 PM PDT by caww
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http://www3.blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/rand-paul-filibuster-nsa-surveillance-patriot-act/?dcz=

.....Rand Paul’s presidential campaign was quick to send out a fundraising email tied to the speech and threatening to hold senators in town through the Memorial Day recess.

“Fellow Conservative, liberty cannot long last without privacy from government intrusion. Yet, it seems many of my colleagues here in the Senate care more about getting out of town for the Memorial Day break than protecting the Constitution so many American patriots have fought and died for. I have news for them. They are going NOWHERE,” Paul wrote. “I will not simply stand down and allow them to ram through another “last-minute” deal to shred our Constitution — all while they think the American people aren’t looking.”

Paul could be delaying the start of other Senate business, such as the filing of a motion to limit debate to just take up a surveillance bill, but given the amount of debate time in order on trade, that might be a moot point.

Paul previewed his latest stand on the Senate floor Monday at events in Philadelphia, including a news conference held outside Independence Hall.

McConnell, who favors extending the full breadth of the programs scheduled to lapse at the end of the month, said Tuesday that floor consideration would include allowing a vote on a proposal that passed the House with 338 votes known as the USA Freedom Act that would end the current bulk collection.

Paul said Monday that the USA Freedom Act is also problematic to him, saying it could (perhaps unintentionally) expand on the existing Patriot Act.


41 posted on 05/20/2015 2:04:25 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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Good, get rid of DHS and the TSA. make flying a pleasurable experience again rather than a dread.


53 posted on 05/20/2015 2:48:04 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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Ron...I mean Rand Paul Protecting out Phone Bills!
/Sarc


55 posted on 05/20/2015 3:02:37 PM PDT by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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Even on social issues Rand I think is miles ahead of where many Republicans conservatives get behind are. I mean, yes there are real problems but Rand is one of a tiny handful who could be counted on at all to stand up for the rights of states like Texas, Georgia, Arizona, Kansas, Oklahoma and others to make their own policies on abortion and gay marriage when the rest of the Feds are trying to strong arm them into having gay marriage and abortion on demand. That makes him one of the top 3 Republican candidates, at least, on social issues.


61 posted on 05/20/2015 4:11:24 PM PDT by youngphys01
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Wow someone in congress actually doing something about this Patriot Act and he is one of few repubs against TPP.

Good for him!

No excuse for the rest of them.


68 posted on 05/20/2015 8:05:05 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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All for show...he lasted 11 hours. That’s just work and an overtime shift. What a joke.


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