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Franklin Graham: 'Draw Muhammad' event went too far (what happened to FG?)
WND ^ | Cheryl Chumley

Posted on 05/11/2015 2:36:37 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

Franklin Graham, one of the world’s best-known Christian evangelists and the head of the nonprofit Samaritan’s Purse, said in a Wednesday morning Fox & Friends interview the “folks in Garland were wrong” to hold their “Draw Muhammad” event. ”

As a Christian, I don’t like it when people mock my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,” he said. “What this event was doing in Texas was mocking Islam. I disagree with [them].” Graham said today’s society is lacking in civility and the “folks in Garland were wrong” to further that tone. “I think we need to show respect and civility,” he said.

“We need to respect one another … and those that believe differently [from my faith], I’m not going to mock them.”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: franklingraham; garland; pamelageller; texas; waronterror
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To: RoosterRedux

Franklin should recall Elijah’s confrontation with, and mocking of, the prophets of Baal in 1 Kings 18:27 - 29.

He didn’t worry about what was PC. And yes, he paid a big price for his boldness. Hint: The people slaughtered the false prophets and Queen Jezebel blamed Elijah.

But maybe his boldness is why we still remember what he did today.


21 posted on 05/11/2015 3:00:57 PM PDT by Elpasser
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To: RoosterRedux

Franklin Graham might consider the lessons of 1,400 years of Muslim predation upon Christians:

Turning the other cheek to a Muslim will likely get you sodomized at best, more likely buggered and then beheaded.

Rev. Graham, consider taking Jesus’ advice, “Sell your cloak and buy a sword.”


22 posted on 05/11/2015 3:06:33 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: RoosterRedux

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I guess Franklin never read of the apostle Paul’s mocking of the pagan Athenians.
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He’s a soggy fish!
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23 posted on 05/11/2015 3:09:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

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>> “He is saying it is not the christian thing to do, to mock someone’s faith” <<

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He knows better than that.

All of the apostles openly mocked the pagans, day by day.

They got stoned for doing it, and continued anyway, because the truth must be spoken.

Franklin is just as fake as his father.
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24 posted on 05/11/2015 3:15:19 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: RoosterRedux

The South Park guys did this too. Comedy Central wouldn’t let them “draw Mohammed” so they used a giant black bar. Then they did an episode where they mocked EVERY other religion and their figures like Christ (smoking pot), Buddah, etc.

Their point was clear, we can mock anything except Islam?


25 posted on 05/11/2015 3:16:49 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Republican elites are as useless as bacteria in a flea's butt!!)
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To: RoosterRedux

Note: His personal opinion stops no one from doing anything.


26 posted on 05/11/2015 3:19:17 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you are not part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Hey! I love Franklin Graham and his dad, too!

But I disagree completely here!

She was not sinful, she asked for an open compendium of thought.

Graham himself has said stronger things about Islam than Geller. And even if that’s not so, she has the freedom and right to say what she wants.

As do the Muslims. If they decide to be offensive to me, I can say what I like back to them in response. We all have the God-given right to speak as we like.

If it’s racist, it’s still protected. If it’s offensive, it’s still protected. If it’s a response to one of the above, it’s still protected.

But I DON’T have a constitutional right to not be offended!

And when it comes down to it...if someone is so offended that they take up arms against me and our right to say what we like...they’ll be shocked and awed at my ability to defend it.

And I will...

WE will.

Lately, no one’s cared about MY taking offense. No one’s cared about OUR desires/sanctity/precious things.

And they’re not required to.

But I’ll be hung if they think I will change my opinions or intent to express them because of their thin skin.

Molon Labe...Come and take ‘em.

So, I’ll admit it here: I’m a racist. I’m a homophobe. I’m against socialists/communists and any taint of them.

Call me a racist. It doesn’t bother me. The word means nothing.

Call me a homophobe. Again, it means nothing.

Call me un-American; call me un-patriotic...and now you’ve crossed the line.

Dammit! I’m tired of being right all the time, but being cast as some outlier!

I’m not! WE’RE not!

And I’m damned if it’ll all go down this way.


27 posted on 05/11/2015 3:21:58 PM PDT by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: RoosterRedux

I get Franklin Graham’s point. However, I would not say that there is not a place for mocking. I always loved the story of Elijah and the prophets of Baal at Mount Carmel. I won’t post the entire chapter of 1 Kings 18 - (worth the read) - here’s the comparative passage:

25 Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, “Choose one of the bulls and prepare it first, since there are so many of you. Call on the name of your god, but do not light the fire.” 26 So they took the bull given them and prepared it.

Then they called on the name of Baal from morning till noon. “Baal, answer us!” they shouted. But there was no response; no one answered. And they danced around the altar they had made.

27 At noon Elijah began to taunt them. “Shout louder!” he said. “Surely he is a god! Perhaps he is deep in thought, or busy, or traveling. Maybe he is sleeping and must be awakened.” 28 So they shouted louder and slashed themselves with swords and spears, as was their custom, until their blood flowed. 29 Midday passed, and they continued their frantic prophesying until the time for the evening sacrifice. But there was no response, no one answered, no one paid attention.


28 posted on 05/11/2015 3:24:33 PM PDT by time4good
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To: RoosterRedux

I don’t think he understands “mockery.” If I were to draw a picture of an Arab-looking man in late middle age and call it “Mohammed,” it wouldn’t be mockery. It would just be a crummy drawing of an Arab man. If I were to attempt to draw Jesus, Moses, Buddha, or a Hindu deity ... same thing: just a lousy drawing.

It’s not “mockery” that sets off Moslems: it’s the existence of non-Moslems.


29 posted on 05/11/2015 3:25:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("He's not my prophet, he's just some dead bloke." ~ Mark Steyn)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

I believe Pamela Geller is Jewish?? I think FG missed the point of Pamela’s event. They did something extreme to make a statement that we will not allow free speech to be impinged. I don’t think it was so much a hate thing as it was to try to make people realize that Sharia Law and the Constitution are not compatible.


30 posted on 05/11/2015 3:26:32 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: editor-surveyor

They are not fake. He’s on record flat out calling Islam Evil. Many are led to Christ through their ministries.

Read my post above - I agree with you - mocking in the right spirit can be appropriate. He’s being too polite.


31 posted on 05/11/2015 3:26:50 PM PDT by time4good
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To: Chasaway

Very passionate post. I think we are all getting fed up by attempts to marginalize our views to appease those who would enslave us.


32 posted on 05/11/2015 3:29:16 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Elpasser

Paul intentionally took the uncircumcised Timothy into the Temple...to challenge the legalistic Judaizers.


33 posted on 05/11/2015 3:29:21 PM PDT by Keli Kilohana (Editor, ZARR CHASM CHRONICAL [sic], Sore, WV)
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To: RoosterRedux

Laura Ingraham laced into Geller which surprized me. Don’t know if Ingraham was playing to the media crowd. But what Geller did the way I look at it is; “A tempest in a tea pot”.

The only group making an issue out of this does not not deserve any consideration because of their radical over reaction to to any demonstration of critcism to Islam.

While those heavy into religious groups like Graham or Ingraham or anyone else who believes that “no cartoons =no enticement” should be the practice and that includes the Vatican; they’re just plane wrong.


34 posted on 05/11/2015 3:29:46 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: conservativejoy

Thanks!

They’ve crossed the line.

A long ways back.

And I believe a lot of folks feel the same.

One just can’t waltz in here and take away our freedom.

C


35 posted on 05/11/2015 3:34:17 PM PDT by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: Tax-chick

There is a difference between mock and defy (and e-s needs to get this straight too, the apostles DEFIED the pagans, there was not anything remotely coming close to an Elijah episode in their ministry).


36 posted on 05/11/2015 3:34:39 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Keli Kilohana
Paul intentionally took the uncircumcised Timothy into the Temple...to challenge the legalistic Judaizers.

False, on so many levels.

37 posted on 05/11/2015 3:39:27 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: RoosterRedux

So the Son of God and the goat humper, a false prophet, are on the same level???????


38 posted on 05/11/2015 3:40:00 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (The Sting of a Reproach is the Truth of it. Ben Franklin)
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To: RoosterRedux

Sorry Franklin, what the event in Garland did was draw out the truth. Turn the other cheek to Muslims, and they will saw it off with a dull butcher knife. It is what Islam is about. Christianity criticizes other beliefs all the time, like Satanism, or Mormonism, Hinduism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Voodoo, White Supremacy, the KKK, Masons, you name it. Islam is worse than all of these put together, and yet Christian leaders push their flocks into the lie of appeasement.


39 posted on 05/11/2015 3:43:27 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Shimmer1; RoosterRedux

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>> “So the Son of God and the goat humper, a false prophet, are on the same level?” <<

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Franklin’s father once said on network TV that “All ways lead to the Father.”

That was shortly after he accepted the 33rd degree in the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry.
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40 posted on 05/11/2015 3:45:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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