Posted on 05/09/2015 11:42:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
If the government does not like the way that you are raising your kids, they will come in and grab them at any time without giving any warning whatsoever. Of course this is completely and totally unlawful, but it has been happening all over America. The most recent example of this that has made national headlines is particularly egregious. Joe and Nicole Naugler of Breckinridge County, Kentucky just had their 10 children brutally ripped away from them just because the government does not approve of how they are living their lives and how they are educating their young ones. Lets be very clear about this Joe and Nicole had done nothing to violate the law whatsoever. All of their kids were happy, healthy and very intelligent. But because the control freaks running things in Kentucky got wind of their off the grid lifestyle, they have now had all of their children unlawfully abducted from them.
A lot of my readers also lead off the grid lifestyles similar to what the Nauglers had been enjoying. The Nauglers own 26 acres in a remote area of Breckinridge County, and their family has been described as extremely happy. But despite never giving them a single warning or a single indication that anything was ever wrong, Kentucky police raided their home on May 6th. The following is how the raid was described on a website dedicated to this case
On May 6th, 2015, Breckinridge Co. Sheriffs officers came to their home, acting on an anonymous tip, and entered their property and home without a warrant and without probable cause. Nicole was at home with the two oldest children, while Joe was away with the others. When the officers left the home, they attempted to block the access road to the family property. Nicole and the two boys got in their car to leave the family property. The got only a short way down the road before the officers pulled Nicole over.
During this stop, sheriffs deputies took their two oldest boys from Nicoles custody, providing her no justification or documentation to support their action. Nicole was able to contact Joe briefly by telephone, but only for a short period of time, because she needed to use her phone to record the events.
At that point, Nicole had been taken into custody for disorderly conduct (for not passively allowing the Sheriff to take her boys) and resisting arrest. Even though she is 5 months pregnant, she was slammed belly first into the cop car and bruised and scraped on both arms.
And people wonder why there is such an uproar about police brutality in this country
How in the world can a police officer ever justify treating a pregnant woman like that? The police officer that treated Nicole like that should immediately resign. Talk about an utter disgrace. You do not ever treat a pregnant woman like that.
But this is America, where we are turning a little bit more into Nazi Germany every single day.
You can listen to audio of Nicoles shocking arrest right here.
When Joe arrived on the scene, the police continued to act like Gestapo thugs
Joe was able to arrange transportation to meet his wife where the stop had taken place. Joe attempted to get out of the car to speak with the officers and his wife, and to recover the vehicle Nicole had been driving. The Sheriff, with his hand on his sidearm, ordered Joe back into the car. Joe complied with that request. The sheriff informed Joe that he had every intention of making this as difficult as possible for them and that their car would be impounded, despite the fact that Joe was there onsite to recover it.
A friend, who had driven Joe to the location, got out of the car to speak with the Sheriff. She was able to convince the Sheriff to let Joe recover the vehicle. Joe also recovered Nicoles cell phone, which had been recording audio the entire time.
The Sheriff ordered Joe to turn the remaining eight children over to Breckinridge County Sheriffs deputies by 10:00 a.m., and threatened him with felony charges if he does not comply.
Joe did comply with the Sheriffs order, and now their kids have been scattered by CPS among families in four separate counties
As of now, officials have placed the children with four families in four different counties, and as of Friday morning, the parents had not spoken with them. The four families are families that CPS chose families the Nauglers dont know.
Shame on you Kentucky. You are supposed to be better than this.
One of the most disturbing elements of this entire incident is that Child Protective Services never visited the Nauglers a single time and never gave them any indication that anything was wrong. The following comes from Off The Grid News
Child Protective Services never visited the home, said Ellsworth, who believes the arrests took place because of the parents choice of unschooling for their children, and because of their simple way of life that some would call backwards. The familys Facebook page calls it a back to basics life. They have a garden and raise animals. Deputies apparently were concerned about whether the childrens needs were being met, but friends say they personally have no concerns and that the children are blessed to have Joe and Nicole as their parents.
How would you like it if government thugs raided your home and took your children away because they considered your lifestyle to be backwards?
What in the world is happening to this country?
Like I said earlier, what happened to the Nauglers is not an isolated incident. These kinds of things are happening all over the nation. For example, just consider the abuse that one homeschooling family received in New Jersey
Meanwhile, in New Jersey, a WND report highlights how parents were interrogated by a CPS caseworker who questioned Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole, on everything from their sons homeschool education to questions about vaccines and guns in the house.
Michelle Marchese aggressively demanded to enter the property after asserting Christopher Zimmer Jr. was not getting a proper education. Police subsequently arrived and allowed Marchese to enter the home before conducting a warrantless search.
The Zimmers are now suing the CPS for $60 million in a case before the U.S. District Court in Trenton.
I very much hope that the Zimmers win that case and collect a huge monetary award.
All over the nation, CPS officials are running around acting like little dictators and trampling the law. They need the courts to send them a clear message that this is a nation where the rule of law still applies.
If we do not stand with families like the Nauglers, control freak bureaucrats will continue to harass families that have chosen to live a basic lifestyle all over the nation. So lets stand with them and make this case viral all over the Internet.
And Kentucky, get your act together and send those kids back home. You are supposed to be so much better than this.
I agree they look healthy and happy.
Permanent camping is what it looks like. You go go up in the hill country in several states and see life as this.....not so sure of the legal issues surrounding this but seems to me they should be left alone as they are....unfortunately the mother could have simply let the authorities check on her kids in the first place...she refused from the get go and the rest followed. ....unnecessary IMO.
At the risk of being crude-I doubt that any kid who has been on a family camping trip-or who is just plain skilled at eavesdropping-has not heard mom and dad rocking and rolling-I don’t think I’m damaged by knowing what went on...
There is a pipe for letting out the smoke from a woodstove in the photo-I’ve used one of those to keep warm-and cook, too-many times-even recently. If you have the right sleeve at the top, it can be safely used in a tent or a yurt.
I am surprised unschooling is even legal in some states. The parents should be required to meet with local education officials at least once a year to present the kids for ‘inspection’ and testing, etc.
Unschooling has been around for a long time. It is a term that does not really mean what it says. I was never attracted to it in that I preferred a curriculum. But those that follow that plan do teach all the subjects. They just do it in deep context with real life. I understand the concept. It was not for me. Some of their results have been very impressive.
I believe “unschooling” is not teaching the kids and letting them learn naturally.
It’s how kids learned computer programming before the schools started teaching it.
http://kathrynbrightbill.com/post/118481565656/here-are-7-surprising-things-you-need-to-know
I didn’t see one thing in that link that even comes close to justifying the kidnapping of their children. There were several things there that go a long way towards their defense.
“The parents should be required to meet with local education officials at least once a year to present the kids for inspection and testing, etc.”
Sounds racist.
Those are not forced smiles on those kids...generally these are easy to spot...but these kids seem to be just fine IMO.
Sounds like it’s all about letting the authorities check on the kids...and they’ve refused. So that defiance has lead to where things are now.
At issue of course and often is so, is how the authorites slipped in approaching this recent encounter...should of had a CPS individual there.....
However...this has been going on for some time with this family so there’s a lot more we are not being told about this case....my gut says it’s a couple that has taken their knowledge of their rights too far and creating their own situations as a result.
Yes but while they are learning naturally I do believe the parents are suppose to be sure they are taking in all their subjects. It is not entirely devoid of planning. At least that is how I understood it at homeschool workshops.
I would not be surprised that if the authorities found lots of 'skunkweed' planted around the property. The parents sound like hippies. Was their property located on Copperhead Road?
The pic you posted in post #56 is of the same structure in the pic in post #58 taken from opposite sides.
Inspection and testing of kids was/is required in communist countries-in Russia it was done so the kid could be assigned an occupation the state decided they were suited to when they came of age. Ira Levin also used the concept in his dystopian novel “This Perfect Day”. But the last time I checked, this was still America...
Playing in mud does not harm kids. Abducting them from their parents, does.
I don’t think it is one thing. It’s a lot of things. Mostly it’s the hippie generation cracking down on a different hippie generation.
Don’t confuse homeschool with unschool.
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