Posted on 05/09/2015 11:42:37 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
If the government does not like the way that you are raising your kids, they will come in and grab them at any time without giving any warning whatsoever. Of course this is completely and totally unlawful, but it has been happening all over America. The most recent example of this that has made national headlines is particularly egregious. Joe and Nicole Naugler of Breckinridge County, Kentucky just had their 10 children brutally ripped away from them just because the government does not approve of how they are living their lives and how they are educating their young ones. Lets be very clear about this Joe and Nicole had done nothing to violate the law whatsoever. All of their kids were happy, healthy and very intelligent. But because the control freaks running things in Kentucky got wind of their off the grid lifestyle, they have now had all of their children unlawfully abducted from them.
A lot of my readers also lead off the grid lifestyles similar to what the Nauglers had been enjoying. The Nauglers own 26 acres in a remote area of Breckinridge County, and their family has been described as extremely happy. But despite never giving them a single warning or a single indication that anything was ever wrong, Kentucky police raided their home on May 6th. The following is how the raid was described on a website dedicated to this case
On May 6th, 2015, Breckinridge Co. Sheriffs officers came to their home, acting on an anonymous tip, and entered their property and home without a warrant and without probable cause. Nicole was at home with the two oldest children, while Joe was away with the others. When the officers left the home, they attempted to block the access road to the family property. Nicole and the two boys got in their car to leave the family property. The got only a short way down the road before the officers pulled Nicole over.
During this stop, sheriffs deputies took their two oldest boys from Nicoles custody, providing her no justification or documentation to support their action. Nicole was able to contact Joe briefly by telephone, but only for a short period of time, because she needed to use her phone to record the events.
At that point, Nicole had been taken into custody for disorderly conduct (for not passively allowing the Sheriff to take her boys) and resisting arrest. Even though she is 5 months pregnant, she was slammed belly first into the cop car and bruised and scraped on both arms.
And people wonder why there is such an uproar about police brutality in this country
How in the world can a police officer ever justify treating a pregnant woman like that? The police officer that treated Nicole like that should immediately resign. Talk about an utter disgrace. You do not ever treat a pregnant woman like that.
But this is America, where we are turning a little bit more into Nazi Germany every single day.
You can listen to audio of Nicoles shocking arrest right here.
When Joe arrived on the scene, the police continued to act like Gestapo thugs
Joe was able to arrange transportation to meet his wife where the stop had taken place. Joe attempted to get out of the car to speak with the officers and his wife, and to recover the vehicle Nicole had been driving. The Sheriff, with his hand on his sidearm, ordered Joe back into the car. Joe complied with that request. The sheriff informed Joe that he had every intention of making this as difficult as possible for them and that their car would be impounded, despite the fact that Joe was there onsite to recover it.
A friend, who had driven Joe to the location, got out of the car to speak with the Sheriff. She was able to convince the Sheriff to let Joe recover the vehicle. Joe also recovered Nicoles cell phone, which had been recording audio the entire time.
The Sheriff ordered Joe to turn the remaining eight children over to Breckinridge County Sheriffs deputies by 10:00 a.m., and threatened him with felony charges if he does not comply.
Joe did comply with the Sheriffs order, and now their kids have been scattered by CPS among families in four separate counties
As of now, officials have placed the children with four families in four different counties, and as of Friday morning, the parents had not spoken with them. The four families are families that CPS chose families the Nauglers dont know.
Shame on you Kentucky. You are supposed to be better than this.
One of the most disturbing elements of this entire incident is that Child Protective Services never visited the Nauglers a single time and never gave them any indication that anything was wrong. The following comes from Off The Grid News
Child Protective Services never visited the home, said Ellsworth, who believes the arrests took place because of the parents choice of unschooling for their children, and because of their simple way of life that some would call backwards. The familys Facebook page calls it a back to basics life. They have a garden and raise animals. Deputies apparently were concerned about whether the childrens needs were being met, but friends say they personally have no concerns and that the children are blessed to have Joe and Nicole as their parents.
How would you like it if government thugs raided your home and took your children away because they considered your lifestyle to be backwards?
What in the world is happening to this country?
Like I said earlier, what happened to the Nauglers is not an isolated incident. These kinds of things are happening all over the nation. For example, just consider the abuse that one homeschooling family received in New Jersey
Meanwhile, in New Jersey, a WND report highlights how parents were interrogated by a CPS caseworker who questioned Christopher Zimmer and his wife Nicole, on everything from their sons homeschool education to questions about vaccines and guns in the house.
Michelle Marchese aggressively demanded to enter the property after asserting Christopher Zimmer Jr. was not getting a proper education. Police subsequently arrived and allowed Marchese to enter the home before conducting a warrantless search.
The Zimmers are now suing the CPS for $60 million in a case before the U.S. District Court in Trenton.
I very much hope that the Zimmers win that case and collect a huge monetary award.
All over the nation, CPS officials are running around acting like little dictators and trampling the law. They need the courts to send them a clear message that this is a nation where the rule of law still applies.
If we do not stand with families like the Nauglers, control freak bureaucrats will continue to harass families that have chosen to live a basic lifestyle all over the nation. So lets stand with them and make this case viral all over the Internet.
And Kentucky, get your act together and send those kids back home. You are supposed to be so much better than this.
That hit a nerve! Try some chamomile tea, it may calm you down a little.
If checking facts before stating them makes me a ‘control freak’, then I stand ‘guilty as charged’. I just wish the MSM were a little more ‘control freak’ish!
Here’s another source...
The Nauglers have depended upon neighbors’ private wells or municipal hookups for their drinking water, but a confrontation on Sunday prompted a criminal summons for Joe Naugler on a charge of menacing.
(Naugler) was turned down for the water request and asked to leave the property, the summons read. He then said to his son get the pistol out of the glove compartment box.’
WAVE 3 News has withheld the complainant’s name at her request.
He (Naugler) was acting very erratically, the complainant said in an interview Friday. He was calling us names that I have to spell out. I can’t even say ‘em. And he said don’t worry, I know where you live, and I’m gonna be back.’
On Wednesday a sheriff’s deputy went to the Nauglers, summons in hand, attempting to conduct a welfare check for Child Protective Services. He wanted to speak with two of their sons, who reportedly witnessed the water confrontation.
http://www.kmov.com/story/29019229/off-grid-couple-faces-hearing-to-regain-custody-of-10-children
The kids can say they are happy but they don't know any existence but that. They don't understand they can easily get a disease and die, most likely of pneumonia or infected wounds.
Living independently doesn't mean living in squalor.
“Who gets to decide when somethingbis a pigsty?”
When it can be shown to have disease causing bacteria in their open air kitchen and no way to get clean and not enough space for all of them on their one sleeping area which is on boards. There is no protection to keep mosquitoes, bugs, scorpions, and spiders out of the living/sleeping open area. CPS should have gone to court first, presented the evidence, and, if the judge ordered, removed the children so they stay alive.
Those kids are healthy and seem to be doing fine without the PC police kidnapping them.
If there was a case then take them to court, don't kidnap their kids. It seems the only
system we have now is a Stalinist court system that isn't held accountable.
Nah. It’s no one’s business.
The kids were witnesses in a complaint lodged against ‘the father’..... The police were there to talk to the kids and the mother was uncooperative ....
The father was caught stealing water from a neighbor and the neighbor told him to get off their property, the father told the son to go get his gun.
Pretty amazing how this family is so anti-trespassing yet the father was stealing water and trespassing onto their neighbor’s property to take their water....
Wow. That sure escalated quickly. You obviously hadn’t read some of my responses as in leave them alone ... as for getting through the Dust Bowl and the founding (of whatever) without me, I wasn’t born then ...
Read all 189 posts, so I’ll jump in here.
You are both right...
I blame the parents for this firestorm. Mom Facebooking? Why? If you are so off the grid, be off the damn grid. Don’t parade your lein too as adequate housing in a four season part of the country. The earliest settlers built solid structures out of lumber, stone and hand made clay bricks. Why? Because warmth and protection from the elements has been a tantamount survival skill passed down and refined over the centuries. Yet they CHOOSE TO LIVE LIKE THIS and (apparently via the confrontation over the NEIGHBORS WATER) they have not sourced a potable water supply. Do they use a latrine? Do they bath in the small pond shown? There are basic hygiene issues that their PUBLICLY PROCLAIMED lifestyle would make her FB friends WONDER?
And that brings me to the incident. Dad, with all those acres, no job and a lot of time on his hands, hasn’t found any water supply that HE owns? He steals from his neighbor, and when confronting her threatens her w/his gun, retaliation (he KNOWS where has lives!), and calls her a pretty nasty name. Hardly sympathetic.
And now local families, churches, are saying they had scamming issues with these two. So bad was their threatening behavior that the local Mormon church BANNED them and other local families (unschoolers, off the grid types saying “no thanks, don’t my kids interacting with them
Something just seems very wrong and off. This maybe a case of CPS being a stopped clock...eventually they’ll be shown as right on this one.
She has an entire blog as well as a SAlon for Grooming animals...she was or is remodeling in an old pet shop....
I honestly don’t get all this with this family...but maybe that is the point for them. They don’t want others to “get them” for one thing or another....
Here’s she introduces her kids and does seem to know them well....plus she speaks about building on this or some other land...it’s pretty confusing...but seems to me they’ve hit some rough waters along the way and ended up there...
http://blessedlittlehomestead.org/meet-our-family/
The guy many folks believe is the "greatest President in history" was born off the grid, one county over.
But you've also got to consider the fact that these poor kids were missing out on those shiny new transgender bathrooms they have in our fine socialist skeewells (that's how our beloved Gov Beshear says it).
I’m getting a sick feeling these two are playing the system...this gal is all over the internet....she’s opened a grooming business and remodeling it...very nicely I might add....in a strip mall....below are more detailed photos of the shed they supposedly lived in....but then I read they were staying with people. It gets so complicated because they were booted from the LDS Church...and more accusations these two con people...so who knows.
There’s even discussion where people the go fund me page was set up by a friend of her husbands who says he’s in business...but there’s no proof...when called on it he “wiggled” it’s just a starting business.
So this thing is starting to smell real bad! I think this gotofund is all about getting money to fund their new shop and attain a cabin om their property...there are people already willing to help them do this...
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1005296119482265&type=3&l=06d58860fe
I really understand that they want to “do their own thing” and deplore government intervention...UP TO where to survive they have to steal a neighbors water, and threaten gun violence when confronting the OWNER. Then proudly FBIng “hey, I warned that c word neighbor “I’ll be back I know where you live.”
The kids are beautiful, they do look happy and healthy, but they DESERVE clean water, warm BEDS (not a family shelf) and a roof and walls that keep the elements OUT. The article mentions nails and broken glass (and feces) “around.” So can I ask that tetanus, dysentery, etc can also be removed from conditions.
And I have to laugh, they are banned by the local Mormon church? I used to take my late LDS mother in law to her Relief Society meetings and to her worship some dozen years ago. She passed away three years ago, and I STILL get mailings, phone calls, Missionaries. Maybe THATS what she should blog about...how to get “removed.” (And any LDS who read this, I kid, I kid!)
Complicated, schmomplicated.
Didn’t take long....she has a business...and a very nice Grooming Business...this company is coming in and helping her finish it....the rest of the money will be used for building a cabin....(I smell a possible scam here ...these two playing the system?)
MEDIA STATEMENT
CAPISTAN TRUST
BLESSED LITTLE GROOMING COMPANY
Contact: PACE ELLSWORTH
May 8, 2015
Capistan was founded for the sole purpose of uniting well qualified entrepreneurs with sound business plans and would be investors who operate in the crypto-currency sphere.
On May 6, 2015, Capistan beneficiary Nicole Naugler, was arrested on multiple charges in Breckinridge County, KY. As of the date of this release, the Blessed Little Grooming Company project, with a goal of $20,000, was funded 108%.
We understand that she was released from jail within 18 hours, however she and her husband were required to relinquish custody of their 10 children.
The vetting process used to select a project for fundraising includes typical lean startup metrics (i.e. customer validation, model pivoting, pro forma analysis) as well as relationship-based, interpersonal scrutiny. Where the former is rigid and objective, the latter is fluid and subjective.
Capistan proposed the Blessed Little Grooming Company project. The predictive financials were and are sound. However, the primary driver for this project was the fact that Nicole Naugler is the entrepreneur. We chose to invest in Nicole because of her industriousness and uncompromising intention to lift her family out of their indigent circumstances to a brighter tomorrow. Her drive to save her family from their current financial and legal circumstances, mixed with her outstanding customer validation history, confirm that we made the correct decision.
Capistan will continue to fund and manage the Blessed Little Grooming company project. Nicole Naugler started with less than most. She is laser focused on her goal, and she is persecuted because of the indigence of her circumstances. She is exactly the kind of person in whom Capistan was designed to invest. The Naugler’s circumstances may adversely affect the project’s deployment timeline. We will reevaluate the needs of the family and inform all who have pledged of any impacts to the schedule.
Sincerely,
Pace Ellsworth
http://capistan.com/capistan-media-statement-blessed-littl /
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.