Posted on 05/06/2015 8:24:21 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
That’s a question Peter Lloyd tackles in a series in London’s Daily Mail about Britain’s marriage rate, which is at its lowest level since 1895. “The state of matrimony is not just ailing. It is dying out faster than a mobile phone battery,” Lloyd writes. “For an army of women, Mr. Right is simply not there, no matter how hard they look for him.”
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Very well written, and with good advice.
>>Why buy the cow when you get the milk for free is nasty, spiteful, vulgar, entitled, and condescending?<<
And comes with a metric ton of emotional baggage...
The collective we asked for it, the collective we got it.
I read RoK too. CH and the rest are great resources for dating and living for men in today’s society.
I have read CH most of the time, but follow the whole Roosh site too. Roosh’s points about DC area women are spot on.
When I was 28 years old {29 years ago} I was quickly becoming friends with a woman I worked with. We had lunch together every day and both of us had been married, the marriages had ended hers in divorce {truly his fault due to abuse and cheating on her with a kid} and mine in death, and were looking for friendship.
We got to talking I knew she had two kids I figured maybe 3-6 years old. She had to work to support herself and the kids. She got no other help. She said the girls would be at home from school an hour before she got home from work. I asked how old are they? She said 12 & 14. She said the look on my face was shock LOL. Four months later we were married and I helped raise the girls.
29 years later finds me being single again same reason as before. Dating would terrify me because it did before. I only dated three women and two I ended up marrying LOL. My two previous wives I met either at work or through friends of relatives. Now I'm single, disabled, broke, and literally scared to ever consider marrying again. I'm not even 60 and out lived two wives both of whom I thought I would grow old with. My second wife was 7 years older than me {she was 35 when we married} which was likely better for both of us. While we were dating she became severely disabled and was confined to a wheelchair our 29 years of marriage. A lot of men and women would run from that as well. No marriage is an ideal situation and no spouse is perfect. But she was the best thing to ever happen to me.
“feminism”: Agreed.
You sound like a wonderful man and I hope that you are blessed again with a loving wife.
“Here is an example”
Please provide me with the Judge’s name and the names of his girlfriends that had divorce settlement by him and I will look into it.
LOL. And part of that mortgage might include his debt — maybe debt she never agreed to or even knew about, and maybe even debt he used to commit infidelity. She gets handed the whole bill. LOL.
For the record, I’m not man-bashing. There are narcissistic women out there, too. It seems the law is set up to award narcissistic sociopaths and penalize honest people. It doesn’t matter which one is the wife and which one the husband.
That’s good to hear. Congratulations to your son and his wife... and to you, too. :-)
Thank you for providing a list of cases where it was determined the husband was not required to pay unreasonable expenses.
If it happens it will be The Lord’s doing I reckon. It’s not healthy to marry me it seems like. But if it ever happened she’d have to put up with my kids. They shed, wake me up several times a night, one wants my attention all the time, and they talk back LOL.
Charles Murray in Coming Apart talks about assortive mating, and points out its relative success among the "elite." The upper 20% of society enjoys 1) a relatively-higher marriage rate; 2) a much lower divorce rate; 3) a much lower illegitimacy rate; 4) a lower abortion rate; 5) a very high education rate.
The idea here is that people of this class tend to marry each other, reinforcing the cultural and genetic inheritances they received from their forbears in their own children. The stereotype of this is Susan Patton's "Princeton Mom," who makes the argument that young Ivy Leaguers should look at their college days as the prime time and place to find a mate.
There are certain qualities that seem to recur with frequency in this class, that I believe help explain the overall success enjoyed.
I read that book too. There is a bad consequence of this/women working. If women are taking more and more high paying jobs, that leaves more and more men with lower paying jobs. And their spouses are either forced to live on one reduced income or work too. And thus lower the pay scale for men even more. So what you end up with is a situation where very few Americans feel like they can survive on just the husband’s salary.
That is progress for some: To force everyone into the labor market. Another consequence is to concentrate resources more unequally. Instead of two Doctors marrying two women and having four people live well, you have two Doctors marrying each other and having two people live very well. It’s beneficial to some. Detrimental to others.
It seems to be
What’s hers is hers,
What’s ours is hers,
What’s mine is ours.
Why marry a cow?
I am not agreeing to give half my stuff to a woman so fat she can be called a cow. If she isn’t smoking hot, and obedient, I’d rather stay single and date lots of women, now that I took the time to figure out how to meet women.
Men, if you fail to teach your boys how to meet women, you are failing as a father, because next to choosing a career, choosing a mate is the most important decision of his life (next to accepting Jesus as Savior, of course).
If you fail to teach your daughters how to be the most desirable to men, youfail her, codemning her to eeither working like a man for the rest of her life, or marrying below her potential value, and probably leading her to life as a divorcee.
In practice, it may or may not mean two doctors marrying. It almost doesn't matter. Among this class, a full-time working mother is less common than a stay-at-home mom. They may work before the children come, or may re-enter the workforce after the children are grown. But often, even professionals will at least scale back their careers while the children are young.
There are mutually-reinforcing causes of this. First, the husband is more likely to be a professional with a steady professional income, and with the status to go with it. Thus, there is a little less financial pressure for the woman to “bring home the bacon.” Second, it is more likely that each of the couple came from similar family backgrounds, including stay-at-home mothers. These families institutionally understand that family success is enhanced by stay-at-home mothers.
And that's part of the linchpin of the whole exercise: family success. Part of the root of the success of this class is the determination that the family - not the individual - should succeed. It is the family that is the building block, not the individual. It is the overall needs of the family that take all precedence, not the happiness or success or pleasure of the individual. Success is measured in decades, and by what has been done to ensure the success of the next generation, and the one after that.
I have seen this more times than I can count.
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I don’t doubt it Randita, but those women have something the men don’t. They have the courts on their side.
Going in, the courts are stacked against men. To get equal justice the men have to fork out thousands of dollars. And knowing the financial situation a divorce presents in many instances, men just don’t have that kind of money.
Women will get the children, will in many instances get support payments, generally possession of the family home.
The guy finds himself in some cheap dump without family, without children, and starting from ground zero with little money left after forking over child support and alimony. In many instance the man won’t even have a place to house his children for weekend visits.
This does happen to women in some instances, but not nearly as much.
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