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Obama’s Lawyer: Religious Institutions May Lose Tax-Exempt Status If Court Rules for Gay Marriage
National Review Online ^ | April 28, 2015 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 04/28/2015 12:21:30 PM PDT by C19fan

Religious institutions could be at risk of losing their tax-exempt status due to their beliefs about marriage if the Supreme Court holds that gay couples have a constitutional right to wed, President Obama’s attorney acknowledged to the Supreme Court today. “It’s certainly going to be an issue,” Solicitor General Donald Verrilli replied when Justice Samuel Alito asked if schools that support the traditional definition of marriage would have to be treated like schools that once opposed interracial marriage. “I don’t deny that.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; indiana; marriage; mikepence; religious; rfra; scotus; ssm
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To: conservativejoy

“I think that’s their goal, to completely destroy religious institutions.”

Both the Nazis and the Communists did this right off the bat to control the population - as well as the guns of the citizens.


81 posted on 04/28/2015 1:54:00 PM PDT by bestintxas (every time a RINO loses, a founding father gets his wings.)
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To: C19fan

The tax exempt thing has been used as a gag on churches for decades... frankly any church that is serious needs to give up its tax exempt status so it can speak freely!

Churches refusing to speak freely for fear for of losing their tax exempt status is part of the reason this nation has fallen as far as it has.


82 posted on 04/28/2015 2:06:16 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: C19fan

“Unfortunately a lot of preachers and institutions will close if they lose tax exempt status.”

Most Americans Don’t Itemize on Their Tax Returns. I would say those that do will probably still donate. It would be up to the states regarding property tax.

I wish they would do this.

There not... It would open it up for churches to influence their low information flock, and that would be a huge voting block.


83 posted on 04/28/2015 2:48:38 PM PDT by babygene
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To: buffaloguy

“A very high percentage of churches would fail just on the basis of the current property tax bill. This is a no go.”

Property tax is a state and local issue. The fed has no say...


84 posted on 04/28/2015 2:53:57 PM PDT by babygene
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To: bert
Is he less guilty of religious persecution than Thomas Moore?

Odd. Thomas Moore was murdered BECAUSE he stood up to civil authority (the King of England) and DEFENDED religious principles of the Church.

85 posted on 04/28/2015 3:22:36 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: NorthMountain

Dennis Prager describes it as a war between three world views: liberal-secular, Judeo-Christian and Islamo-fascist.

The liberal-secular often allies with the Islamo-facist to attack Christianity while saying “we’re not really anti-religion, look, a Muslim theist agrees with me”.

A Supreme Court ruling that says “yes, same sex marriage is a right, and enforced by the state” does raise the risk of shutting down a lot of religious groups under “hate speech” rules.


86 posted on 04/28/2015 3:28:20 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
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"Won't Apply To Mosques.
Oh, and Before I Forget,
Death to America!"


87 posted on 04/28/2015 3:43:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: C19fan

The level of evil we see from Obama is not an accident. He has chosen pure evil, and we need to respond appropriately.


88 posted on 04/28/2015 3:49:03 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

If that’s the case, then I wouldn’t feel bad being a criminal.


89 posted on 04/28/2015 4:31:22 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: VideoDoctor

People either killed or driven from major cities by mass rioting will likely happen. The entire riot issue is a disease upon this nation. People seem to rise up against people bloodthirsty. Then there’s the interpretation of how baskets fall and cover whole cities in flame, as Zechariah warned about will happen (chapter 5). To me, that sounds as if nuclear war will happen in the future. Either way, as powerful as our government may be, there playing catch by throwing a bottle of gasoline back and forth over a line of fire...


90 posted on 04/28/2015 4:39:42 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: C19fan

Article 3, Section 2, second paragraph of the US Constitution:

“In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make. “

Congress can overturn ANY Supreme Court decision, and bar them from ever adjudicating the subject again.

If the SC rules gay marriage a right, Congress will have to correct the issue.

Or be replaced by the people.


91 posted on 04/28/2015 4:40:20 PM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: tenger

Yep, the gaysters will have a come to church meeting some Sunday and leave offended and sue and get 135K for mental rape.


92 posted on 04/28/2015 4:47:42 PM PDT by Engedi
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

He was opposed to the reformation and the decline of the power of the Pope. Defending the church is not defense for torturing those opposed to his zeal nor opposing the reform


93 posted on 04/28/2015 4:55:45 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: RnMomof7
. this is not a surprise to Him and no matter the decision it will give Him glory

Amen, but woe woe woe to the judges and nation that sanction abomination.

94 posted on 04/28/2015 5:04:52 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: 2banana
From tolerance to acceptance to forced indoctrination...

The next step could be forced participation. That may be a bit of a stretch, and I know some may laugh at that, but did anyone anticipate it would go even THIS far, when they first came out of the closet? No one knows what will happen next, but nothing would surprise me.

95 posted on 04/28/2015 5:05:40 PM PDT by Mark17 (Beyond the sunset, O blissful morning, when with our Savior, Heaven is begun. Earth's toiling ended)
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To: conservativejoy

That is their goal, but they will not succeed.


96 posted on 04/28/2015 7:52:12 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: C19fan

Funny thing is that people who give money to their church there donations are still tax deductable.


97 posted on 04/28/2015 8:17:29 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: C19fan
Obama’s Lawyer: Religious Institutions May Lose Tax-Exempt Status If Court Rules for Gay Marriage

Now THERE's a fella who we'd better pay attention to!

98 posted on 04/29/2015 7:51:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ealgeone
Fine....then preachers can say what they want.

They always could (and always will).

99 posted on 04/29/2015 7:52:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: C19fan
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

Psalms 12:8 The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Doonesbury Cartoon for Feb/08/2013

Isaiah 3:9 The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

1. But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
2. Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
3. In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
4. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
5. if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
6. if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
7. and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
8. (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
9. if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
10. This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature and despise authority. Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
11. yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
12. But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
13. They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...
 

 
 
 
 
 
 


The Health Risks of gay sex.


100 posted on 04/29/2015 7:53:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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