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Obama’s Lawyer: Religious Institutions May Lose Tax-Exempt Status If Court Rules for Gay Marriage
National Review Online ^ | April 28, 2015 | Joel Gehrke

Posted on 04/28/2015 12:21:30 PM PDT by C19fan

Religious institutions could be at risk of losing their tax-exempt status due to their beliefs about marriage if the Supreme Court holds that gay couples have a constitutional right to wed, President Obama’s attorney acknowledged to the Supreme Court today. “It’s certainly going to be an issue,” Solicitor General Donald Verrilli replied when Justice Samuel Alito asked if schools that support the traditional definition of marriage would have to be treated like schools that once opposed interracial marriage. “I don’t deny that.”

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: gay; homosexualagenda; indiana; marriage; mikepence; religious; rfra; scotus; ssm
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To: conservativejoy

The goal of Ø’s weathermen mentors was to wipe out a good chunk of population. This goes hand in hand with lots of items on their agenda, like abortion - kill marriage, diminish kid making, lower the native population (and make room for the turd world to move in).


21 posted on 04/28/2015 12:36:11 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: MrB

But not from the pulpit.


22 posted on 04/28/2015 12:36:31 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: C19fan

Is he less guilty of religious persecution than Thomas Moore?


23 posted on 04/28/2015 12:36:31 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: allendale

I love it...splitting hairs with an axe!!!!!


24 posted on 04/28/2015 12:36:41 PM PDT by Stayfree (FLUSH HILLARY OR WE ARE DOOMED!!!!)
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To: tenger
Do you really think it will stop at the revocation of tax exempt status? ...

Huh?

Jail time?

Pagans and socialists have a long and sordid history of KILLING Christians. And that's exactly where I think this is headed.

25 posted on 04/28/2015 12:37:02 PM PDT by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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To: C19fan; Alex Murphy; metmom; RnMomof7
Unfortunately a lot of preachers and institutions will close if they lose tax exempt status.

Some will thrive when that time comes. Especially if homosexuality is not part of their "core message."


26 posted on 04/28/2015 12:37:26 PM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: C19fan

A very high percentage of churches would fail just on the basis of the current property tax bill. This is a no go.


27 posted on 04/28/2015 12:38:20 PM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: tenger

“Do you really think it will stop at the revocation of tax exempt status? Next up? Jail time for those who preach against it.”

I fully expect the gov to harass churches in the same way they do white racist groups, via the IRS. They will be financially bullied, probably like they were during Roman times. The gov can’t do much about what people get up and say, at least not yet.


28 posted on 04/28/2015 12:38:29 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: C19fan

Consider the opposite. Suppose SCOTUS rules to keep the traditional definition of marriage. Would tax-exempt gay organizations loose their tax status?

I doubt it.


29 posted on 04/28/2015 12:39:53 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: ealgeone

Yes, even “from the pulpit”.
He could give one full sermon on

“Vote for Ted Cruz because he’s a Christian”

and have to pay for 1/52nd of the church’s income in taxes for the year.


30 posted on 04/28/2015 12:39:55 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: C19fan

As long as they keep winning the attack on Christianity as it has been understood for 2000 years will not stop. Even when they lose it will not stop.

As I have always said, they never wanted to increase freedom. They have always sought to turn our values upside-down. Good is evil and evil is good. There are fewer people in the approved group now and more people in the disapproved group. That there are some in and some out is still the same. The ideas behind each side of the argument are not compatible. Up is not down and down is not up no matter how much someone wants to claim it works both ways so as not hurt the feelings of those promoting error.


31 posted on 04/28/2015 12:39:57 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: conservativejoy
“...that’s their goal, to completely destroy religious institutions.” You've got that right. Do you know what I believe to be one of the reasons the lefties love universal Pre-K and are pushing to offer it to 3 year-olds after they get it for 4 year-olds? Many churches derive much of their income from the nursery schools they run. If the public schools expand to two years of pre-K, many of these church nursery schools will close, which means the churches attached to them also eventually will close.
32 posted on 04/28/2015 12:41:30 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: C19fan
Actually, the tax-exemptness of any organization is first determined by the States when applying for a license to operate. Churches, at least in the states I have served, are codified into the tax laws as exempt already. What the Feds do for you (with a 501c3) is allow churches to issue letters/receipts for those contributing in order to write their deductions off of their Fed taxes. Most churches should not even need a Federal exemption unless their people are whining about needing a receipt.
33 posted on 04/28/2015 12:41:35 PM PDT by jettester (I got paid to break 'em - not fly 'em)
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To: C19fan

gee... never saw this coming

oh wait, i did. like 10 years ago...


34 posted on 04/28/2015 12:41:52 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: C210N

One things for sure, if this lawlessness continues unabated, the day will come when patriots are going to take a stand and demand a return to law and order. No one even knows what happened to the man who was arrested and died. The thugs don’t give a crap about him anyway. They have been given another opportunity to kill, steal, and destroy, just like the one who drives them. When the devil comes in like a flood, it’s time to raise a standard against him.


35 posted on 04/28/2015 12:43:19 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: allendale

I think you’re right.

The Justices often use questions to help push their colleagues one way or another. Kennedy, and to a lesser extent Roberts, are fence-sitters on this.

The Justices also aren’t immune from seeing what’s going on outside the Supreme Court Building. I think it unlikely that they are unaware of the various Christian small businesses that are being targeted.

So cue the Star Wars squid with the “Its a Trap!” quotation.

It would be, IMHO, poetic justice if Progressive overreach on this part of the issue pushes Kennedy and Roberts towards a more restrained decision than would otherwise have been the case.


36 posted on 04/28/2015 12:45:12 PM PDT by tanknetter
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To: utahagen

It also takes them out of the church school environment earlier and gives goverment schools two more years to indoctrinate them.


37 posted on 04/28/2015 12:45:44 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: DonaldC

A million Mount Carmel’s is what they want.


38 posted on 04/28/2015 12:46:45 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: C19fan

This Supreme Court hearing is a sham and any ruling in favor of mandatory acceptance of sodomy is arguably void on its face.

First: No federal court has jurisdiction to judge marriage as marriage is neither a right nor a privilege. For proof of this fact try to marry your adult sibling. As such its not covered under the 14th’s jurisdiction, nor is it a civil rights claim.

Second: Marriage is an establishment of religion. The First Amendment bars the government from changing it.

Third: Kagan and Ginsberg by publicly advocating for forced public acceptance of sodomy have demonstrated a bias as well as conflict of interest requiring them to recuse themselves from the case. They have not done so.

The absence of the forgoing arguments in front of the court and the refusal to recuse themselves by the two who have shown the most conflict of interest in the case are proof the hearing today is a sham.


39 posted on 04/28/2015 12:47:13 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Nothing's so small it can't be blown out of proportion.)
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To: al baby

From the way Islam is treated in our courts, it is tantamount to a state religion.


40 posted on 04/28/2015 12:47:49 PM PDT by Ingtar (Capitulation is the enemy of Liberty, or so the recent past has shown.)
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