Posted on 04/22/2015 11:18:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
These are fighting words for the Left.
The Left has been given a free pass by the mainstream press over the last decade with regard to their immigration agendas effect on the ordinary American worker. Huge legal immigration combined with gargantuan illegal immigration has put downward pressure on blue-collar wages and reduced the opportunities for Americans to find good jobs. This is an obvious consequence of millions of legal and illegal immigrants coming into America to compete with regular Americans looking for work.
Yesterday, Scott Walker told the mainstream press and the Left that their emperor has no clothes. A predictable liberal freak out followed.
Breitbart reports:
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, a likely 2016 GOP presidential candidate, is marching forward with his bold new pro-American worker immigration policy. Hes not afraid to push for a legal immigration system that doesnt box out American workers with a massive influx of inexpensive foreign labor.
After first rolling out his new ideas on Glenn Becks radio program on Monday, Walker appeared on Fox News Megyn Kellys show to further elaborate on how he hopes to protect Americans economically from special interests pushing for a massive influx in cheap foreign labor from around the world.
When it comes to immigration, as a governor I dont have any direct role in thatbut having talked to border state governors and having talked to other people, seeing how screwed up immigration has become under this president, it was clear to me talking to them and listening on this issue, traveling to the border actually going there with the governor of Texas Gov. Abbott, seeing the problems there, yeah from my standpoint going forward we need to secure the border, we need to enforce the laws that we currently have with an e-verify system, Walker said.
These are fighting words for the Left. Why? Because this is an effective way to grab hold of the populist reigns and effectively neuter the Lefts immigration argument that conservatives simply dont care about the kids or are racist. When you are sticking up for the American worker, the liberal, multicultural argument simply doesnt hold water.
Conservatives have been desperate for a champion to effectively and clearly make the conservative argument to the American people in a way they can simply understand how it affects them and their pocketbook. Scott Walker looks to be the candidate to take up the Reagan mantle as the great communicator. Its about time.
Scott Walker now has the best position regarding the illegal alien inundation of any candidate running.
I have been backing Cruz as he has been more consistent.
If Walker gets the nomination, I could vote for him.
Not voting for Rubio, Bush, Perry, Huckabee or any of the other cheap labor importers. Ever, even against the Hildabeast.
Scott has a problem.
He states his immigration policy has changed.
What do you do if you want to protect the jobs of U. S. Citizens? Don’t you send back the people who are here illegally holding down jobs?
In this video clip his old (2013) policy is aired in a second video clip. He backs illegals staying in the U. S. if they pay a fine.
It is also mentioned that he favored the McCain/Kennedy immigration bill. (You know, amnesty but not an amnesty) He acknowledges that.
Then in this (03/01/2015) clip, Walker is asked if illegals can stay, if they pay a fine. He responds with, I believes a way can be found to do that.
This is the same policy as his old policy.
Then he states that his policy has changed. No Scott, it hasnt changed. You just got through endorsing the same policy, illegals being allowed to stay in our country if they pay a fine. So you even fibbed about it.
In 2006/07, 2013, and now in 2015, his immigration policy regarding illegal immigrants is the same as that under McCain/Kennedy. Let them pay a fine and stay.
Immigration is discussed starting at 9:20 and the ...a way can be found... is located at 10:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uymMeeRV1RU
Very good to hear.
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this is great. if walker is pro-2a, it is superlative.
Walker is a fully qualified Wind Tester.
Sadly, you’re right.
Now hold on just a doggone miniute! (in my best Jimmy Stewart accent). I listened to the video from begining to well past the discussion on immigration. What I heard was Gov. Walker responding to Wallace's baiting him on the 'pay a fine, get amnesty' statement by saying "And my views have changed. I'm flat out saying that. Candidates can do that."
Now if you don't believe him, just say so. But don't misrepresent what Walker really said. There IS no "I believe a way can be found to do that." Please tell me where in the 13 minute interview he says that. It's not there! That quote is from two years ago.
He was asked a fair question. It may not be one you like, but it wasn’t unfair. It was asked to determine what Walker’s actual plan for illegals already here was.
He states that if they pay a fine, a way can be found for them to stay.
It’s a fair question, and Walker answered it.
His answer revealed that his policy has not changed, so when he says it has, he’s not telling the truth.
I’ve posted links all over the forum on Walker immigration threads. It’s there and I provided the time to start watching so you could find it,.
If you’re incapable of understanding English, I understand.
More on Scott Walker’s stance on immigration — protecting US workers.
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Still no trace of Walker endorsing amnesty. However, he does clearly REJECT amnesty several times in the recent interview and told Glen Beck the same thing. So all you can do is make things up. If you are incapable of distinguishing the past from the present, that’s a shame.
So for you March 1, 2015 is the past?
2006/07 he is backing McCain Kennedy
2013 he is backing fine and stay
2015 he is backing fine and stay
That was the best you could come up with?
No doubt, Jeff Sessions has influenced his positions. Jeff Sessions' article, Becoming the Party of Work--How the GOP can help struggling Americans, and itself., should be required reading for every Rep candidate.
Taking this position on legal immigration will separate Walker from every other Rep. It worked for Dave Brat against Cantor.
Cruz favors major increases in our guest worker programs as does Rand Paul. Jeb Bush is pro-amnesty and wants increased legal immigration and guest worker programs. Rubio jumped the shark along with 13 other RINO senators with the Gang of 8 bill.
What candidate is advocating mass deportation? None. Cruz wants the laws enforced and no citizenship for those who entered illegally. Does he want to deport them all?
Senator Ted Cruz's Contradictory Position on Illegal Immigration
"On June 19, 2013 Sen. Cruz issued a press release describing his proposed amendments to the so-called Gang of Eight Senate immigration bill. The bill would have provided a pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants, among other things. Sen. Cruzs proposed amendments would have done several things, including creating a prohibition on federal, state, or local means-tested entitlement benefits for those here illegally. His proposed amendments also would have prevented those currently here illegally who are offered legal status under the bill from obtaining citizenship. Sen. Cruz stated in the press release: Providing a path to citizenship undermines the rule of law and is an insult to the millions who have immigrated to the U.S. legally. Sen. Cruzs proposed amendments were not adopted and he voted against the bill. I am unaware of any clear statement by Sen. Cruz indicating how he would have voted on the bill if his proposed amendments had been adopted. However, his press release strongly indicates that he would have voted for the bill if his proposed amendments had had been adopted.
I very much want commonsense immigration reform to pass, but if this bill becomes law as currently written, it will not solve the problem. Instead it will make the problem of illegal immigration worse, Sen. Cruz said. We must work together in a bipartisan manner to fix this problem in a way that secures the border, improves legal immigration and respects rule of law so we remain a nation that welcomes and celebrates legal immigrants. I look forward to working with my colleagues on these issues and am confident my proposed amendments will effectively address the current problems with this bill.
Doubling the overall worldwide green card caps from 675,000 visas per year to 1.35 million per year
This amendment would improve our nations legal immigration system by increasing the H-1B cap from 65,000 to 325,000. It would also help America retain the people it educates by authorizing dual-intent student visas and address the need for high-skilled labor by creating a block grant to promote domestic high-skilled workers.
Cruz 1326: Combines Cruz 1324 and Cruz 1325. Implements Green Card reform to streamline and expand legal immigration and increases high-skilled temporary worker visas five fold.
None of the current and potential candidates are where I want them to be on immigration. However, Walker can be the vessel to a new approach to the immigration issue that has the possibility of splitting the traditional Dem constituencies. We shouldn't be trying to shoot down either Walker or Cruz, the two candidates I could vote for even with certain reservations.
Whon do you support? If it is Cruz, then go with God, but don't try to help Cruz by attacking Walker. We need Walker on the dais expressing his views on legal immigration and the impact it is having on American workers. Let's go after the RINOs and then we can have a battle between the two conservatives.
The polls:
Gallup (1/29/15): By a more than 5-to-1 margin (39% vs. 7%), Americans who are dissatisfied with current immigration levels want less rather than more
* Pew (2012): 69% say we should restrict and control people coming to live in our country more than we do now (including 59% of Hispanics)
* Reuters (8/7/14): By a nearly 3-to-1 margin (45% vs. 17%), Americans think immigration rates should be reduced, not increased
* Princeton Survey Research Associates (6/23/13): 61% say that there should be restrictions on the number of STEM-related foreign workers allowed to enter the U.S. * Gallup (6/8/14): By a 2-to-1 margin (41% vs. 22%), Americans think immigration should be decreased rather than increased
* The Polling Company (8/14/14): By a staggering 10-to-1 margin (75% vs. 8%), Americans believe that a business seeking workers should raise wages and improve working conditions before hiring new labor from abroad
* Paragon Insights (9/2014): By an almost 5-to-1 margin (74% vs. 15%), likely voters said they would be more likely to vote for a Republican who said the American people are right to be concerned about their jobs and wages, and elected officials should put the needs of American workers first. 70% said they would be more likely (vs. just 18% who would be less likely) to vote for a Republican who said that the first goal of immigration policy needs to be getting unemployed Americans back to work not importing more low-wage workers to replace them.>
Kabar, he still says illegals can pay a fine and stay.
Those illegals are working inside the United States.
We have tens of millions of U. S. Citizens out of work.
This is a new plan, and he’s proven to you he’s serious?
Based on what?
Since 1990 we have brought in 30 million LEGAL PERMANENT IMMIGRANTS. And we continue to bring in 1.1 million legal immigrants a year. In addition, we import 640,000 guest workers a year. At any one time there are over 2 million guest workers working legally in this country. Do you think that has an impact on jobs and wages? And these legal immigrants receive welfare legally and they can vote legally after being here 5 years. They vote two to one Democrat.
From an article in Politico yesterday:
Conservative critics of Walker pounced, with the Washington Examiners Philip Klein calling the latest shift bizarre and newsletter writer Ben Domenech describing Walkers position as held by none of the other presidential candidates, including hard-line Sen. Ted Cruz. The Daily Callers Matt Lewis called it a demagogic pander.
Walker's position scares the crap out of the political and corporate elites. They will do whatever they can to take him out. He is the American Nigel Farage. Immigration can be a winning issue for the GOP if Walker plays it this way. As someone who has been working on this issue for 8 years as a grassroots immigration activist who lobbies on the Hill, I can tell you that this message will resonate with most Americans. A couple of years ago, I wrote this article, Mass Immigration versus the Rights of American Workers I described it as the real civil rights issue of our time.
None of the candidates has said they will round up the lawbreakers and deport them.
I’m sympathetic to your overall vision. We share it.
Kabar, the man said with his own mouth six weeks ago that if illegals pay a fine, they can stay. That has been his policy since 2006/07.
This is a man that now says he thinks of American workers first.
1. He hasn’t changed
2. He is still willing to let 30 million illegals stay
3. His promise to think of U. S. workers first cannot be factual.
He is resoundingly criticized by folks who would object to a Conservative immigration plan, because they want his ruse to be taken serious. John McCain is criticizing him for the same reason. This is a three pronged plan of attack.
1. he lies, says he has a new plan (he doesn’t)
2. McCain jumps in to trash him
3. others jump in to trash him
4. others jump in to praise him
All this with no new plan.
You have to wake up to this. Walker lets it slip in the interview with Wallace. Take the man at his word. Don’t sucker for the lie that he has changed. He tells you that he hasn’t right there.
They know he hasn’t changed, but if he can fool Republican voters, his old policies will rule the day.
I want you to think back. Have I ever attacked a man with a good solid immigration plan? Have I ever trashed someone for speaking out against illegal immigration? Have I ever said they should stay? Have I ever said one thing to make you think I would try to defeat someone who would fix this?
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