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I post this to give some good ideas for how to fight back against activists who want to close bakeries, pizza places, photographers, etc. to extend the gay agenda.

Fr. Z started it and now others have more ideas...

1 posted on 04/21/2015 8:23:18 AM PDT by SumProVita
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To: SumProVita

Let them know that all the proceeds will be donated to groups that help gays become ex-gays and watch them flip out.


2 posted on 04/21/2015 8:27:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: SumProVita

I love it!


3 posted on 04/21/2015 8:29:39 AM PDT by armydawg505
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You can tell who the “bad guys” are by who is doing the pursuing...

It’s not the business owners seeking out “gay” couples to tell them they won’t participate in their fantasy.


5 posted on 04/21/2015 8:31:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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Bkmrk.


6 posted on 04/21/2015 8:35:01 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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I don’t know why I would ever want to hear “Immaculate Mary” ever again in my life, .....

“Wonderful Grace of Jesus” is a Biblical song, and I.M. just ..... isn’t.

... but I understand his overall strategy.


7 posted on 04/21/2015 8:39:05 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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**And then inform them that all of the money that they pay for the services will be donated to a traditional pro-family lobby.**

NO!

The "customer" will writhe the check to a traditional pro-family lobby. Make them write the check. Don't insert yourself as a middleman.

11 posted on 04/21/2015 8:48:58 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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I think I would bake a cake and use all salt and no sugar. When they complain I would explain that if a same sex ‘marriage’ is as good as a traditional marriage then a same ingredient cake should be just as good as a traditional cake.


14 posted on 04/21/2015 8:54:32 AM PDT by tbpiper
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Bump for future passive-aggressive tactics.


16 posted on 04/21/2015 8:59:08 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (Posting here = IRS audit.)
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To: SumProVita
Fr. Z has a great idea here. Check it out and pass it on to other business owners.

More about my post: “When they come to destroy your business because you are pro-traditional family”

Posted on by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Do you remember my 2 April post about a strategy to defend Christian, pro-family businesses from being targeted for destruction by homosexualist activists?  HERE

I wrote (as a refresher):

When some homosexual couple comes to your Christian business for services at their immoral event, don’t panic.  Go ahead and take their business!

Then explain what is going to happen next.

Tell them that the food and services will be just fine.  And then inform them that all of the money that they pay for the services will be donated to a traditional pro-family lobby.   If it is something like catering, where your employees have to be there to provide services, tell them that all your people will smile, be professional, and everyone of them will be wearing crucifixes and have the Holy Family embroidered on their uniforms.  Then show them pictures of your uniforms.  When the truck pulls up, speakers will be playing Immaculate Mary.  Show them the truck and play the music.

“Oh, you would be offended by that?  I’m so sorry.  You approached us because we are Christians. Right?  We are happy to provide services for you and we are grateful that you chose to come to our Christian catering business.  We just want to be of help.”

Then tell them that you will take out an ad in the paper to let everyone know what you did with their money, thanking them by name for their business so that you could make the contribution.

I suspect this approach, if adopted far and wide, would put an end to attacks on Christian businesses.


18 posted on 04/21/2015 9:01:04 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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If you consider your employment, your personal business, then being pro-traditional family is already censured. If you work at a corporation that has training on harassment you are already threatened. Ironically retaliation is a forbidden activity and harassment, so if you say something against marriage-abomination an employer can retaliate. Oh and it matters not what one says, only that someone’s feelings were hurt.


19 posted on 04/21/2015 9:01:58 AM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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Try a sign over your counter that says “All proceeds from gay “weddings” to be donated to the Ted Cruz electoral fund”


22 posted on 04/21/2015 9:09:55 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Changing the name of a thing doesn't change the thing. A liberal by any other name...)
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25 posted on 04/21/2015 9:20:25 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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This is not the best tactics, because, in a manner of speaking, “You are getting into a pissing contest with a skunk.”

A better way is to avoid the problem in the first place.

Say you have a bakery and among other things, you create wedding cakes, which you do not wish to sell to homosexual weddings. You can subdivide, on paper, your public business from your “contractual” business.

In most places, there are at least two dozen conservative and Orthodox churches that can *legally* refuse to marry homosexuals. If you as a business make a contract with them to *exclusively* provide wedding cakes to weddings held at their churches, you can do so, as long as there is minimal “consideration”, a business law term.

This means that the church will mention (it doesn’t have to recommend) that you are a provider of wedding cakes, to couples that hope to be married in that church, in exchange for which you will give the couple a nominal discount, or perhaps a small donation to the church.

This is enough consideration to make the contract legal. But the contract clearly specifies that you will *only* provide wedding cakes for weddings held at one of those churches.

The downside is that you cannot provide wedding cakes for secular or any wedding not held in one of these churches, as that will violate your contract.

Legally, this would seem to be bullet proof.

1) Anything other than wedding cakes you can sell to anyone, as a legal “public accommodation.”

2) But you are protected by contract law, which is very hard to break, that you can only provide wedding cakes to wedding ceremonies in these churches. So it is *not* a public accommodation. It is an exclusive contract.

3) Nowhere in the contract are homosexuals even mentioned. So you are under the legal umbrella of these churches, protecting you from harassment and lawsuit.


29 posted on 04/21/2015 10:31:23 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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