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“When they come to destroy your business because you are pro-traditional family”
Fr. Z's Blog ^ | Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Posted on 04/21/2015 8:23:18 AM PDT by SumProVita

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I post this to give some good ideas for how to fight back against activists who want to close bakeries, pizza places, photographers, etc. to extend the gay agenda.

Fr. Z started it and now others have more ideas...

1 posted on 04/21/2015 8:23:18 AM PDT by SumProVita
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To: SumProVita

Let them know that all the proceeds will be donated to groups that help gays become ex-gays and watch them flip out.


2 posted on 04/21/2015 8:27:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: SumProVita

I love it!


3 posted on 04/21/2015 8:29:39 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: Blood of Tyrants

These are pretty good ideas.


4 posted on 04/21/2015 8:31:07 AM PDT by LS ('Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually.' Hendrix)
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To: SumProVita

You can tell who the “bad guys” are by who is doing the pursuing...

It’s not the business owners seeking out “gay” couples to tell them they won’t participate in their fantasy.


5 posted on 04/21/2015 8:31:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SumProVita

Bkmrk.


6 posted on 04/21/2015 8:35:01 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (The White House is now known as "Casa Blanca".)
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To: SumProVita

I don’t know why I would ever want to hear “Immaculate Mary” ever again in my life, .....

“Wonderful Grace of Jesus” is a Biblical song, and I.M. just ..... isn’t.

... but I understand his overall strategy.


7 posted on 04/21/2015 8:39:05 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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From the story:

““Oh, you would be offended by that? I’m so sorry. You approached us because we are Christians. Right? We are happy to provide services for you and we are grateful that you chose to come to our Christian catering business. We just want to be of help.”””

What happens if they didn’t approach them because they were Christian, but approached them because they had a good reputation as a baker/florist/etc. in the community and just wanted the best?


8 posted on 04/21/2015 8:41:11 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (two if by van, one if by broom)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Yeah, that’s what’s happening here.
The homoactivists aren’t specifically searching for someone who won’t serve them in order to punish them for their beliefs.

Pull the other one and it plays Jingle Bells.


9 posted on 04/21/2015 8:44:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

[BIG smile!]

I love this one!!!


10 posted on 04/21/2015 8:44:24 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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**And then inform them that all of the money that they pay for the services will be donated to a traditional pro-family lobby.**

NO!

The "customer" will writhe the check to a traditional pro-family lobby. Make them write the check. Don't insert yourself as a middleman.

11 posted on 04/21/2015 8:48:58 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

They should fully advertize the fact that they are Christian!

Those who want the best will receive ALL of the best. ;-)

PS. This also entail giving customers great service, wonderful courtesy, total honesty...maintaining love in their hearts. Hopefully, they would meet at the beginning of the work day to pray for all of their customers and for one another.


12 posted on 04/21/2015 8:49:00 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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I very much like your idea but do not think that this would legally be permitted. As long as you are heavily advertizing that a percent of your profit will go to the pro-life, true marriage lobby, you are making your point. That point will bring sufficient pain of itself....as well as helping a good cause.


13 posted on 04/21/2015 8:54:19 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita

I think I would bake a cake and use all salt and no sugar. When they complain I would explain that if a same sex ‘marriage’ is as good as a traditional marriage then a same ingredient cake should be just as good as a traditional cake.


14 posted on 04/21/2015 8:54:32 AM PDT by tbpiper
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LoL. I see how you demonstrate that it is THEIR thinking that is *yucky.* However, in real life, we must serve in a way that is as innocent as doves and wise as a fox.


15 posted on 04/21/2015 8:58:01 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SumProVita

Bump for future passive-aggressive tactics.


16 posted on 04/21/2015 8:59:08 AM PDT by JusPasenThru (Posting here = IRS audit.)
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here’s the problem, and I don’t think most want to face it.
we have protected classes in this country. I don’t think we should, but we do. we know diversity (just using that as a catch all), trumps everything. it shouldn’t, but it does.
therefore, if you own a business, you can refuse service to a rowdy patron but not because of someone’s race, religion, sex etc.
that’s how it is. and their sexual orientation trumps the owners beliefs.
if we don’t like it, we should have fought protected classes before it was ingrained in our culture.


17 posted on 04/21/2015 8:59:15 AM PDT by willywill
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To: SumProVita
Fr. Z has a great idea here. Check it out and pass it on to other business owners.

More about my post: “When they come to destroy your business because you are pro-traditional family”

Posted on by Fr. John Zuhlsdorf

Do you remember my 2 April post about a strategy to defend Christian, pro-family businesses from being targeted for destruction by homosexualist activists?  HERE

I wrote (as a refresher):

When some homosexual couple comes to your Christian business for services at their immoral event, don’t panic.  Go ahead and take their business!

Then explain what is going to happen next.

Tell them that the food and services will be just fine.  And then inform them that all of the money that they pay for the services will be donated to a traditional pro-family lobby.   If it is something like catering, where your employees have to be there to provide services, tell them that all your people will smile, be professional, and everyone of them will be wearing crucifixes and have the Holy Family embroidered on their uniforms.  Then show them pictures of your uniforms.  When the truck pulls up, speakers will be playing Immaculate Mary.  Show them the truck and play the music.

“Oh, you would be offended by that?  I’m so sorry.  You approached us because we are Christians. Right?  We are happy to provide services for you and we are grateful that you chose to come to our Christian catering business.  We just want to be of help.”

Then tell them that you will take out an ad in the paper to let everyone know what you did with their money, thanking them by name for their business so that you could make the contribution.

I suspect this approach, if adopted far and wide, would put an end to attacks on Christian businesses.


18 posted on 04/21/2015 9:01:04 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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If you consider your employment, your personal business, then being pro-traditional family is already censured. If you work at a corporation that has training on harassment you are already threatened. Ironically retaliation is a forbidden activity and harassment, so if you say something against marriage-abomination an employer can retaliate. Oh and it matters not what one says, only that someone’s feelings were hurt.


19 posted on 04/21/2015 9:01:58 AM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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Sorry FRiend, but that’s cart before the horse thinking.
And it plays the game by their deceptive “rules”.

What they’re about, ultimately, is criminalizing Christianity and removing its influence from the world.
That’s why they seek “diversity”, which is simply a dilution/weakening of our Western, Christian-based culture.
That’s why they seek out Christian businesses for destruction, and turn a blind eye to a Muslim business doing the same thing.

They need to be called on it. Playing by their “framing” is a big loser.


20 posted on 04/21/2015 9:02:47 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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