Posted on 04/04/2015 6:45:17 PM PDT by EveningStar
... Regardless of whether you're a supporter or opponent of Obamacare, you may have missed an important "ruling" from the U.S. Supreme Court earlier this week that resulted in Obamacare logging a key victory.
The case, Coons vs. Lew, was initially brought to court in 2011 by business owner Nick Coons and orthopedic surgeon Dr. Eric Novack. The two, with the help of additional legal backing, alleged that the Independent Payment Advisory Board, or IPAB, would trim Medicare costs and potentially hurt their business by instituting reimbursement levels that wouldn't cover their own expenses. These allegations are where the term "Obamacare death panel" emerged, as the 15-member government panel would be in charge of potentially cutting Medicare rates in the future ...
Earlier this week the U.S. Supreme Court upheld the decision of the San Francisco-based Appeals Court by declining to hear the so-called "death panel" case, confirming that the existence of the IPAB isn't sufficient grounds to overturn or modify Obamacare ...
Although Obamacare proponents can relish this week's victory, a significantly bigger challenge looms this June when the Supreme Court is expected to make its ruling on King vs. Burwell ...
(Excerpt) Read more at fool.com ...
“So Roberts is just like those other four justices and always votes with them?”
Apparently so, when it comes to Obamacare.
Moral relevance is the most important kind.
Bingo. They may take the case in the future and rule on the merits. Or they may not.
[[My husbands power plant is going bankrupt because they cannot pay their carbon emissions fee. They laid off 25% of the workforce, but still cant pay it. They will just limp along until it is overdue and then declare bankruptcy.]]
I’m very sorry to hear that- It’s sad that We work hard all our lives, then a president comes along and makes it so expensive to continue that it ruins us and everyone around the nation, STEALING our hard earned money in the name of a ‘problem’ that doesn’t exist, and by making prices skyrocket on everything-
Sadly you are just another victim of this administration- I bet we’d be shocked to learn just how many victims have lost their businesses because of carbon regulations-
Maybe you could write into Fox news and see if someone there would run a story on how oppressive the carbon taxes were on your husband’s power plant- The public need to be made aware of what is already happening thanks to oppressive and unnecessary government regulations
I certainly wouldn’t limp along. I would be calling in the conservative press and Drudge and go at it both barrels. I would talk about fear of admin reprisal through IRS and ask the courts for protection from the administration
“I certainly wouldnt limp along. I would be calling in the conservative press and Drudge and go at it both barrels. I would talk about fear of admin reprisal through IRS and ask the courts for protection from the administration”
That’s up to the owners. Since they are an investment firm and have numerous other plants, I’m sure they don’t want to make waves.
This was to be expected - energy prices were going to ‘necessarily skyrocket’, remember? The sheeple won’t care until their electric bills triple.
I think I stated it wrong - he doesn’t own the plant, just works at it. We’d be worth 10s of millions if he owned a power plant (other than the bankruptcy thing).
It’s actually worked out well for us. It was the prompting we needed to Go Galt, as we’ve been contemplating for years. He offered to be laid off, to save one of the others’ jobs - but was turned down since he’s the compliance manager and none of those being let go could do the job. (He deals with the idiocy of Big Government first hand - hence his willingness to quit)
We will be keeping our taxable at $20K so with personal exemptions and the standard deduction, we will pay nothing. We’ll open a couple of small businesses and put every other than $20K into a 401K, to avoid taxes, but also to add to our savings, which we will be dipping into to live. $20K just won’t be enough, even with living a simple country existence.
Thanks for your well-wishes but it will be great (I hope) and we’ll be ready for the tide to turn. I wish everyone here could do the same - feeding the beast just encourages it.
Oh my goodness are you that insane?
On the off hand that your head was buried in the sand and you missed it at the time try this on for size
Make waves.
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!
Solzhenitsyn
How is that people who have been crushed by the sheer weight of slavery and cast to the bottom of the pit can nevertheless find the strength to rise up and free themselves, first in spirit and then in body; while those who soar unhampered over the peaks of freedom suddenly lose the taste for freedom, lose the will to defend it, and, hopelessly confused and lost, almost begin to crave slavery. Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
Not always, but very often.
I don’t give a tinker’s dman if it was unilateral or not. He voted with a coalition of left wing freaks on this and too many other issues. He’s turning into a Chief Justice Warren 2.
you can go ahead.
this is not our hill to die on.
as I said in a post to a less controlling poster, this has given us the freedom to go Galt (as in my tagline).
if you are still feeding the beast - paying taxes - you are part of the problem. We are the solution.
(He deals with the idiocy of Big Government first hand - hence his willingness to quit)
Lol- that made me chuckle, who wouldn’t jump at a chance to quit after having to deal with government lol?
[[which we will be dipping into to live. $20K just wont be enough, even with living a simple country existence.]]
Yep- it used to be enough, before everything went sky high- now there’s probably lots of people in same boat- they had enough for retirement IF prices didn’t soar- then along comes bammy and in 6 short years, all of a sudden the funds aren’t enough- We’re facing that very situation and like you we live very simply- but will probably be forced to cut back more and m ore till we eventually have to get rid of internet, perhaps tv etc just to make ends meet- It’s like we’re being pushed back into the stone ages by the left- I guess they didn’t like other people doing well
Growing up and saving, we thought everything was going to be ok- living in the most prosperous nation on earth, nothing to worry about- it’s just sad to see that we’ve entered into the ‘information and technology age’ but now, thanks to soaring prices, we won’t be able to continue affording it- Yippie- We’ve made such progress!
Question: When did Standing
become a legal doctrine?
(Much later than a lot of people realize.)
bookmark
“Yep- it used to be enough, before everything went sky high- now theres probably lots of people in same boat- they had enough for retirement IF prices didnt soar- then along comes bammy and in 6 short years, all of a sudden the funds arent enough- Were facing that very situation and like you we live very simply- but will probably be forced to cut back more and m ore till we eventually have to get rid of internet, perhaps tv etc just to make ends meet- Its like were being pushed back into the stone ages by the left- I guess they didnt like other people doing well”
And the government pretends like there’s no inflation, so the cost of living index is pitifully low. We just have to sit by and watch our purchasing power decline.
I’ve been watching the Forbes retirement survey for the last several years. Each year, less and less people think they’ll be able to retire. More think they’ll have to continue to work, even after getting on Social Security. Sad thing is - many older folks get physical problems so that they would have to limit the work they can do, so planning on continuing to work can be risky.
[[And the government pretends like theres no inflation, so the cost of living index is pitifully low. We just have to sit by and watch our purchasing power decline.]]
Exactly- The fat cats who decided there was no cost of living increase gave themselves healthy cost of living increases to the tune of 10’s of 1000’s of dollars in some cases, yet denied seniors and veterans and disabled people cost of living increases DESPITE the FACT that many of them have to get by on as little as $700 a month-
Great Quote!
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