You are my bitch.
Posted on 03/23/2015 7:54:24 AM PDT by Kaled
Conservatives often find themselves at odds with the libertarian crowd. However, is that anger really warranted?
As President Reagan once said, “If you analyze it, I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.”
True conservatives and libertarians, let’s not pretend there aren’t fakers on both side, all agree on the fundamentals: limited government, personal responsibility, and economic freedom. Neither group wants the government interfering in our daily lives and telling us what we can and cannot do. Now there may be slight disagreements on how that plays out in the policy arena, but we should not allow that to stop us from working together.
Our primary focus needs to be on reigning in spending, and returning power to the states where it belongs. The government has overreached time after time with blatant disregard for the boundaries set forth in the constitution. It’s time for conservatives and libertarians to put aside our differences, and work together.
As Morton Blackwell, President of the Leadership Institute, says, “You owe it to your philosophy to study how to win. You have a moral obligation to learn how to win.”
When are we going to realize that what we are doing isn’t working? We are going to keep losing elections until we get this right, and America will pay the price.
Indeed.
That just about nails it. This really isn't a political issue. There is a segment of FR that can't or won't get past the religious angle. IMO is poisons the debate.
I consider myself a libertarian. I'm also very anti abortion, want the borders sealed and illegals thrown back to their countries of origin. I'd like to see the size of government cut in half. I'm pro 2A, etc. My candidate of choice is Ted Cruz. But I don't care how Mr. Cruz spends his Sunday mornings. And I don't know why other FReepers care how I spend mine.
You are my bitch.
Makes no sense? How can you say that when you go on to say that Christianity and libertarianism are “on opposite sides of that divide”.
Conservatives are not claiming that God is on our side, but when liberaltarians make the claim that drugs, porn, prostitution and etc. should be legal, then one thing is clear:
Libertarians are not conservative and are not Christ-like.
How can libertarians and conservatives unite, when libertarians have at best, no interest in, and at worst, scorn for, the social issues which matter greatly to real conservatives? (IMO, a “fiscal” conservative is no conservative at all. Social issues are at the very heart of conservative concerns, and tie in to our views on fiscal concerns).
Ay Carumba!
When Kaled gets the zot, will it be his troll like activities on that thread?
Or this one?
Another argument for doing away with the Religion Forum.
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Rotflol!
Definitely need more caffeine coursing through your veins, Laz.
bump!
"Anything Goes" as long as it goes for ME to act like I have license to do whatever the Hell I feel like. Who cares about The Republic... this is about ME, Dammit!
"Little L" libertarians, however, are basically what would be considered as Constitutional Conservatives... and I can see them as being on Cruz Control.
I know I am one of many, many Freepers that consider themselves to be one of these "little L" types, and I believe that I share Ted's values, and his hopes for this Republic. Rand Paul just says and does whatever it takes to stay in line with the Uniparty establishment, yet give some "contrarian" twist on it all.
No, thanks.
Yet they fail to see that ALL laws are about morality. Laws against murder, robbery, rape, etc. all because of MORALITY.
What the libertarians mean when they say this is that they don't want their favorite vices to be outlawed.
So then, when slavery was deemed to be immoral, the government should have been “hands off” about it and just left it up to the states to decide? What makes slavery as immorality any different from the issue of abortion (which conservatives consider to be murder), or sodomite “marriage” (which conservatives consider to be destructive to the family and therefore destructive to society, as being the basic building block of a well-ordered society)? Why not at least just let the states decide on these issues? And if that has merit, why couldn’t the states decide on the issue of slavery?
“No-fault divorce” comes into that category also.
So which is the moral cesspool -- the US where the law says "drive on the right" or the UK where the law says "drive on the left"?
By definition “vice” (as opposed to “crime”) should not be outlawed.
“Kaled is a newbie leftist-libertarian who is once again trotting out the “put our differences aside” nonsense to force conservatives to go along with their pro-abortion and pro-homosexual agenda.”
We sure get our share, right.
Kaled, Laz OWNS you now..... You should forget FR, and go sell Birkenstocks : )
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