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Ted Cruz's presidential run is bad news for Rand Paul
Washington Examiner ^ | 03/23/2015 | Philip Klein

Posted on 03/23/2015 7:21:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Tex., on Monday is expected to announce he's running for president. However well he ends up doing in the Republican primaries, one thing is for sure — the development is terrible news for Sen. Rand Paul's presidential ambitions.

Whatever small chance Paul had in the 2016 presidential race was premised on his ability to reach beyond the core supporters of his father's, by articulating a message that appealed to a broader coalition of Republicans. The biggest opportunity Paul had for growth was with Tea Party voters who would be drawn to his limited government message. The biggest obstacle he had was foreign policy views that are also out of step with many of those voters.

In an ideal world for Paul, he'd try to find a way to assuage the concerns of national security-oriented conservative voters without totally alienating his core supporters. And one way to do that was attack the other candidates for being insufficiently committed to limited government principles. That already difficult task becomes effectively impossible with Cruz in the race.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016election; cruz; election2016; kentucky; paultardnoisemachine; president; randpaul; randsconcerntrolls; rupaul; tedcruz; texas
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Exactly....he’s not even conservative in my book.

Ted will cave on immigration though.


41 posted on 03/23/2015 11:37:42 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: SoConPubbie; Lurkinanloomin

You’re just absolutely, 100% wrong on point #1. Cruz supports giving amnesty & work permits to people currently here illegally:

http://therightscoop.com/sen-ted-cruz-also-supports-temporary-legalization-status-in-the-immigration-bill/

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/us/cruz-tries-to-claim-the-middle-ground-on-immigration.html?pagewanted=all

Did you really not know that? Or are you intentionally posting lies?


42 posted on 03/23/2015 12:10:07 PM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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To: servantboy777

NEVER !
That would be the death knell for Cruz !


43 posted on 03/23/2015 12:10:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Perhaps, but whomever runs second in the primary race has a shot at the vice position. Who knows.

Cruz would capture conservatives, some Hispanic (Cuban community for sure), portion of republicans.

Rand would capture some republicans, conservatives, libertarians and a portion of the moderate democrats.

Rand Paul is more conservative than libertarian, his father was opposite...more libertarian.

We gotta long way to go yet.


44 posted on 03/23/2015 2:02:51 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777
Yes, we have a long way to go and yes, sometimes VEEPS are chosen from those who run against the nominee and lost. OTOH, Rand and Cruz are very far apart on a good number of things, many people won't vote for any nominee with Rand on the ticket, and I suspect that some Paulinsistas wouldn't vote for a ticket where he wasn't the presidential candidate.

I also suspect that you are giving Rand more possible voters than there are/could be.

45 posted on 03/23/2015 2:08:21 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Just speculation at this point. Rand Paul did very well at CPAC. In fact, I believe he came in first.

I’m not a huge Rand Paul supporter, but I can tell ya, if it were Rand Paul or Jeb, Christie, Graham...I would vote for Rand.


46 posted on 03/23/2015 2:35:32 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Lurkinanloomin; All

My son, who is in Special Forces, says a lot of the guys there like a Paul, I don’t remember which one. Why would that be the case?


47 posted on 03/23/2015 2:40:03 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: servantboy777
This is the THIRD time that Rand has won the CPAC straw poll and it's because, like his father, he PAYS for and buses in "his people" !

I loathe the Pauls, father and son, and Rand is now a GOP-Eer, so there's little difference between him and jebbie on many topics.

Speculation is fine, when it is based on solid facts.

48 posted on 03/23/2015 2:42:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: gleeaikin
My son, who is in Special Forces, says a lot of the guys there like a Paul, I don’t remember which one. Why would that be the case?

They hate the CIA perhaps???

The SF are independently minded and highly self motivated. They love what they do so much that they can't stand seeing their blood earned work wasted and the deep loyalties they carefully and courageously cultivated with the world's oppressed people betrayed over and over again by our cynical leaders.

I don't know that Ron Paul and Rand Paul fear God. Individualistic humanism is as bad as collectivist humanism. But the Paul's do seem loyal to the truth and they also hate covetousness. I think Ted Cruz's speech today is the 1st time I've heard someone promise to lay waste to more of the statist status quo than Ron Paul has.

49 posted on 03/23/2015 3:13:32 PM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
The more conservatives who jump in, the better for Jeb IMHO.

Really? Conservatives are better for Jeb Bush? How? He's just an overweight version of Obama.

50 posted on 03/23/2015 4:58:29 PM PDT by madison10
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To: conservative98

LOLOLOL!


51 posted on 03/23/2015 5:37:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Kaled
The question is how well Rand can position himself to pick up the freed-up supporters after Ted flames out.

And....you're gone.

Still a dead troll.

52 posted on 03/23/2015 5:42:24 PM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: conservative98

Bald Ron’s daily wig is more subtle, but I like the colors.


53 posted on 03/23/2015 5:43:01 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Islamic Immigration is Treason.)
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To: manc

/bingo


54 posted on 03/23/2015 6:44:19 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Kaled
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ha ha ha ha!
55 posted on 03/23/2015 8:38:39 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: madison10

Divide and conquer.

If you have a dozen or so conservatives running in 2016 and only one major GOPE/RINO-—Jeb-—running that helps Jeb.

History shows the conservatives only chance of capturing the GOP presidential nomination is when movement conservatives are solidly united behind one candidate. This has happened only twice in my lifetime: In 1964 and 1980.


56 posted on 03/24/2015 6:52:40 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: SoConPubbie

Article just posted says Ted has just peeled off three key Paul supporters in Iowa.


57 posted on 03/24/2015 11:18:53 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines; madison10
Divide and conquer.

If you have a dozen or so conservatives running in 2016 and only one major GOPE/RINO-—Jeb-—running that helps Jeb.


Well the solution to that problem is simple.

Since Ted Cruz IS the BEST conservative POTUS candidate AND he has already officially jumped into the race for POTUS, the rest, if they truly love their country, should drop consideration of running and back Ted Cruz.

Problem solved!
58 posted on 03/24/2015 11:36:14 AM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: SoConPubbie

Problem not solved if a whole bunch of conservatives enter the primaries as expected dividing the conservative vote.


59 posted on 03/24/2015 12:48:24 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Problem not solved if a whole bunch of conservatives enter the primaries as expected dividing the conservative vote.

Then get them to stop and get behind Cruz.

None of them compare to Ted Cruz.

If they truly love their country, if they are truly conservative, they will do this. If not, or they are putting their own desires above their love of the country, they won't.
60 posted on 03/24/2015 3:44:06 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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