Posted on 03/14/2015 10:30:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
You have to give a certain amount of credit to politicians who are able to maintain a level of consistency, if nothing else. Stopping in New Hampshire, Jeb Bush was faced with yet another series of questions on the subject which seems to have sunk his prospects with conservatives this cycle. When asked yet again about a possible path to citizenship for illegals and a chance to “come out of the shadows” in an orderly fashion, Bush doubled down and let all of you haters out there know that he’s the grown up in the room here.
Jeb Bush said he would be open to allowing illegal immigrants a path to citizenship and said his position on immigration is “the grown-up plan.”
The former Florida governor, a vocal supporter of granting legal status to some undocumented immigrants as part of a broader immigration overhaul, offered a robust defense of his immigration policy during a discussion with local business leaders here.
“It’s easy to say, ‘Well, anything you propose is amnesty,’ but that’s not a plan,” Mr. Bush said during a discussion with local business leaders here. “That’s a sentiment, that’s not a plan. I think the best plan, the most realistic plan, the grown up plan, if you will, is once you control the border and you’re confident it’s not going to be another magnet, is to say, ‘Let’s let these folks achieve earned legal status where they work, where they come out of the shadows.’”
Later, during a brief exchange with reporters, Mr. Bush said he could also be supportive of a path to citizenship for people in the country illegally – as he did at one time – but said there currently isn’t sufficient political support for it.
It’s an interesting strategy to be sure, and one which leads us to believe that Jeb honestly believes he can run the table in the primaries without any serious conservative support. Our last survey of you, our readers, shows Bush standing steady with, er… one percent support. This is relatively unchanged since the beginning of the winter. And who knows? Maybe he’s not entirely crazy… the RCP average currently has him in second place behind Walker by a fingernail, well inside the margin of error. Of course, at this point in the cycle these polls are all over the place.
The scattershot nature of these numbers should be enough of a warning about taking them too seriously. McClatchy and Fox News actually have Bush in the lead, though the Fox numbers are getting a little stale at this point. PPP has Walker well out in front, and for some reason CNN thinks Huck is running away with it. But since we’re on the topic of wide ranging opinions, national views regarding the rest of the candidates versus the conservative snapshot you find at Hot Air is rather fascinating also.
Really, the only area of national vs conservative consensus at the moment seems to be Walker. He’s a runaway favorite here and manages to be at the top of the pack, albeit with a much more slender margin, among the rest of the nation. Bush, as already noted, is completely upside down. The nation at large sees him as at least a viable first choice while he’s barely a blip on the radar for conservatives. Ted Cruz is the only strong challenger to Walker here, but nationally he’s hovering near the back end of the main pack at 4.4%. We get back to some sort of parity with Marco Rubio. He’s in third place with our readers, but it’s a very distant third. His seventh place finish in the RCP poll of polls sounds a lot worse, but he’s got a still almost respectable 4.8% which isn’t that far off from the 6% he pulls at Hot Air.
The two other biggest disparities at this point seem to be Ben Carson and Chris Christie. The New Jersey Governor is still seen as at least a possibility among Republicans nationally, though he’s fallen a long way, but among the Hot Gas crowd, he managed an entire four votes out of more than 1,500. Carson didn’t do much better here with 12 votes, but nationally he’s in 4th place with more than 10%. (And that figure definitely keeps him in the competitive hunt along with Walker and Bush.)
Getting back to Jeb, both immigration and Common Core seem to be his downfall among the faithful. Statements like this one from New Hampshire aren’t going to do him any favors either. But could it disqualify him? I seem to recall seeing a pretty huge revolt against Romney last time, but he still made it across the finish line in fairly strong shape. Food for thought at least.
Related: Daniel Doherty at Townhall offers his own thoughts on the recent polling here. He thinks pretty highly of you guys!
Must be the word “adult” in adult section/bookstore/ratings that has him confused.
We need politicians willing to enforce current law.
If current law is not a "plan," much less an option, then any change in law is just political cover.
If you want open borders, Jeb, just say so...in the meantime, quit insulting our intelligence.
Do we have a country if we won’t deport illegal aliens?
We’re letting foreigners decide the composition of our country in the future.
In fact, there is nothing more grown up than recognizing the legitimate boundaries of government and nations, and defending those borders forcefully.
No habla
It sounds more like the same total confusion that his older brother displayed in 2006, as to the nature of America, and the actual issues involved. (See Analysis of Bush II Immigration Policy.)
If the Bushes are allowing family considerations to over-rule their duty to "preserve & defend," they should not pretend that their rationalizations have anything to do with maturity.
William Flax
Nailed it.
The Grown Up Plan is to reward lawbreakers?
No way, Jose.
But he is a “head banging conservative”. You better play nice with the people who want to “fundamentally change America” or you are going to get called a racist.
Just shaddup and go away, Jeb.
Build a fence and enforce the law. That’s a plan nobody’s tried.
I recognize the attempt at humor; but the implied point of your comment goes to the very essence of whether this man is morally fit to hold any office concerned with immigration questions.
Jeb Bush has every right--indeed a high moral duty--to take care of his wife. He also has a sworn duty to preserve the Constitution & by its express terms, that includes the Liberty of the Founders "posterity." If he cannot separate those moral duties; if he is conflicted on those duties; by any moral compass, he should be disqualified from seeking the Presidency.
America has unique cultures. Mexico has unique cultures. We can certainly be friends; as neighbors we ought to be friends. We are not interchangeable. You already see among some of Jeb's "grown ups" in California, an actual suppression of the Founders' Anglo/Celtic heritage in public schools. Unless Americans want to end up like the dispossessed Hawaiians, now reduced to entertaining tourists in what was once their domain, we better start recognizing the real issue, here.
William Flax
“We had a plan in 1986 that turned into nothing more than amnesty, and encouraged millions more to break the law.
Shove it, Jeb!”
jeb thinks we’re like children and can be easily lied to. They weren’t serious about protecting our borders then and aren’t now. I believe Not protecting our borders was part of the plan to get us to where we are today. There’s nothing to talk about until our borders are secured and deportations begin, at least criminals, child molesters, gang members, drug dealers etc. POJB
Except for that general election thingy.
Him or almost any other GOPe candidate.
PING!
If it was Hillary vs Jeb the ballot wouldn’t need names or party affiliation. Just two icons, one a dried up woosy and the other a tiny willy.. Vote your choice of plumbing the result will be the same
Jeb Bush, ticking off his own voting pool. :-)
AMNESTY Jebbie PING
The ‘grown-up plan’?
Arrogance knows no bounds.
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