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For Asian Americans, a changing landscape on college admissions (Unreal!)
The Los Angeles Times ^ | February 21, 2015 | Frank Shyong

Posted on 02/24/2015 11:36:15 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

In a windowless classroom at an Arcadia tutoring center, parents crammed into child-sized desks and dug through their pockets and purses for pens as Ann Lee launches a PowerPoint presentation..

Her primer on college admissions begins with the basics: application deadlines, the relative virtues of the SAT versus the ACT and how many Advanced Placement tests to take.

Then she eases into a potentially incendiary topic — one that many counselors like her have learned they cannot avoid.

“Let's talk about Asians,” she says.

Lee's next slide shows three columns of numbers from a Princeton University study that tried to measure how race and ethnicity affect admissions by using SAT scores as a benchmark. It uses the term “bonus” to describe how many extra SAT points an applicant's race is worth. She points to the first column.

African Americans received a “bonus” of 230 points, Lee says.

She points to the second column.

“Hispanics received a bonus of 185 points.”

The last column draws gasps.

Asian Americans, Lee says, are penalized by 50 points — in other words, they had to do that much better to win admission.

“Do Asians need higher test scores? Is it harder for Asians to get into college? The answer is yes,” Lee says.

“Zenme keyi,” one mother hisses in Chinese. How can this be possible?(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blacks; college; education; racism
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To: ConservativeInPA

Just check the “Hispanic” box and demand they prove differently.


21 posted on 02/24/2015 11:53:04 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: central_va

Hopefully Asians will learn sooner or later that leftists hate them.


22 posted on 02/24/2015 11:53:23 AM PST by GeronL
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To: central_va

The Vietnamese do not.


23 posted on 02/24/2015 11:53:44 AM PST by BBell (breathe easy obey the law)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They do the same to Jews, or they used to.

I was wait-listed at MIT and I had a near-perfect GPA (a 4.27 out of a possible 4.3), just shy of perfect SAT (1580/1600), and perfect ACT (32 I think, can’t remember).

I was also already a decorated pilot in the military.

They were pretty up front about it back then: they said that without weighting the school would be all Jewish and Asian.


24 posted on 02/24/2015 11:53:45 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: MrB

“Just check the “Hispanic” box and demand they prove differently.”

They go by last name on the theory that people without a Hispanic last name don’t “face the same discrimination.”

Yes, I know this is B.S. But that’s what they do.


25 posted on 02/24/2015 11:56:11 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: HMS Surprise

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_209

http://www.thenation.com/blog/178876/how-insurgent-asian-american-groups-helped-republicans-kill-affirmative-action-californi

excerpt:

“Following opposition from Asian-American groups and conservative activists, California lawmakers killed a measure Monday that would have reversed a ban on affirmative action in college admissions.

Earlier this year, Democratic lawmakers in the state’s upper chamber passed an initiative (SCA 5) that would’ve let public university admissions officers consider race when selecting applicants, overturning parts of Proposition 209, the 1996 ballot measure that banned affirmative action in state institutions. The initiative, sponsored by State Senator Ed Hernandez (D-West Covina), aimed to help reverse the “precipitous drop in the percentage of Latino, African-American and Native American students at California public universities” since Prop 209 passed nearly two decades ago.”


26 posted on 02/24/2015 11:57:54 AM PST by GeronL
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A Chinese mother discovers although she escaped China; she did not escape communism.


27 posted on 02/24/2015 11:58:27 AM PST by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: BBell

I only have one Vietnamese friend and he is a staunch democrat. You can’t judge on a sample of one though.


28 posted on 02/24/2015 11:58:49 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Jewbacca

The article touches on that.


29 posted on 02/24/2015 12:00:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Jewbacca

Mr. Smithzales at your service...


30 posted on 02/24/2015 12:01:00 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: PoloSec

31 posted on 02/24/2015 12:01:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Asian Americans often believe that higher education is completely vital for them in terms of getting them where they want to in their careers. Once they see that it really is leftists who are ruining it for them, I think more of them will get huge wake up calls the worse it gets. I can’t help but feel that for many of them, especially those whose families fled the Communist hells of China, Vietnam and others, that their anti communist values are still at the core of the people they are.


32 posted on 02/24/2015 12:02:01 PM PST by youngphys01
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To: Cowboy Bob

As we make college more “affordable” the quality of education even at our most elite private schools will continue to tank and China, India, South Korea and even Vietnam will probably be surpassing us in terms of how good their schools are. Especially now that some of their universities may be moving away from the purely rote computation style that held some of them back.


33 posted on 02/24/2015 12:02:01 PM PST by youngphys01
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To: Cowboy Bob

The football programs stink :)


34 posted on 02/24/2015 12:02:44 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The below is from the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

TITLE IV--DESEGREGATION OF PUBLIC EDUCATION DEFINITIONS SEC. 401. As used in this title-- (a) "Commissioner" means the Commissioner of Education. (b) "Desegregation" means the assignment of students to public schools and within such schools without regard to their race, color, religion, or national origin, but "desegregation" shall not mean the assignment of students to public schools in order to overcome racial imbalance.

It is obvious that the practice of giving admission advantages to any group is 100% illegal. Any court that upholds this practice is an activist court that no respect for law, The Constitution nor the rights of anyone.

35 posted on 02/24/2015 12:03:51 PM PST by cpdiii (DECKHAND, ROUGHNECK, GEOLOGIST, PILOT, PHARMACIST, LIBERTARIAN The Constitution is worth dying for.)
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To: Jewbacca; MrB

Just to mess with admissions people, change your kid’s name to Jose Lee Jimenez-Cohen


36 posted on 02/24/2015 12:05:07 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (#JuSuisCharlesMartel)
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To: MrB

Just check the “Hispanic” box and demand they prove differently.


Kind of like Elizabeth Warren? gee I think I have some Hispanic ancestors in my background....Eh I tan well? I have brown eyes, dark hair, etc. whatever it takes.


37 posted on 02/24/2015 12:06:05 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (Make 'em squeal!)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Make it “Li” instead of “Lee”.... just to be sure.


38 posted on 02/24/2015 12:06:07 PM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My kids are mixed white and Asian - they’ll mark other.


39 posted on 02/24/2015 12:10:23 PM PST by struggle
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To: central_va

Isn’t there a trend of Asians voting more Republican now?


40 posted on 02/24/2015 12:10:56 PM PST by eekitsagreek
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