Posted on 02/14/2015 10:41:40 AM PST by fwdude
Russell Moore (no relation to Roy Moore), the head of the Southern Baptist Convention's public policy arm, “says Alabama judges who in good conscience cannot issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, should resign instead of fighting the law while in office.”
What if judges in Germany refused to approve legal orders to transport Jews to death camps? What if they just resigned? Would that have been enough? A resignation would only mean that a new judge would be appointed who would comply with the order.
A line has to be drawn somewhere.
(Excerpt) Read more at godfatherpolitics.com ...
Looks like the SBC has again been taken over by liberals.
This SBC leader is in favor of Dred Scott and RoeWade. The Scotus rules so therefore it’s moral.
It is time to tear apart the fabric of this nation, and Judge Roy Moore recognizes that.
Keep asking. We may all have to be mate yes one day
Russell Moore is by no means a liberal and much of this thread is a very bad reaction. I may not agree with him but I really want to understand his point because I know he knows and believes in the Word of God. He was very recently Dean of SBTS.
My feeling on this is that it’s going to take a lot more pain to get Americans off their feet and into the streets to effectively resist this tyranny. And I do mean, a LOT more pain.
It’s apparent to me, at this point, that the majority is still well insulated enough, that they’re merely uncomfortable. Discomfort does not make revolutions. Only severe and unrelenting pain brings that.
Fight, John Boehner, fight!
1 Samuel 24:14
And David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait: let us fall now into the hand of the Lord; for his mercies are great: and let me not fall into the hand of man.
Boehner should resign.
The 1st Civil War was an unbearable punishment from God. Everybody lost.
Just like Boehner and Mitch represent yours, right?
Russell Moore has a record of speaking in capitulatory terms. He is a quisling, and has no business being in the influential position he occupies.
you summed it up well. And that pain unfortunately hits us all, even those that know what’s going on and what needs to be done.
My Dad used to get all kinds of sales courses that had different angles. He had one he shared with me long ago and the key was to find the “pain” in the customer and solve it.
If there is no pain, there is no reason to solve the problem - just as your post stated.
Lousy for the good guys/gals but unless some real gutsy folks decide to step out hard, we will see further, faster decline.
People like him never resign. They just continue spewing their filth till forcibly removed.
exactly, they got to be dragged out of there while screaming about the injustice of it all
I agree.
Their main other thing is education of seminary students. But make no mistake, they do not speak for the faith, therefore, you see no huge effort to take them over by normal old fashioned Baptists.
Finally, someone who knows the SBC posts an intelligible response. As other SBCs on FR haves stated, the individual Baptist churches choose to affiliate with the SBC but are not beholden to the so-called "national leaders" in Nashville, TN. So many of the resolutions that are passed every year at the annual SBC meeting are non-binding.
The SBC went through a major internicene fight back around 1979 when the "conservatives" took control of the national offices. With Russell Moore's ascension to the chairman of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Committee back in 2013, we are witnessing the SBC pendulum swing back to the left regarding matters of illegal immigration, racial integration of churches and homosexuality.
FWIIW, Russell Moore is married to a women and has children.
While I don't hold with Russell Moore's position on this, I'd like you to cite some other examples of how he has been a "quisling".
That article is total fabrication. This is what Moore really said:
http://www.bpnews.net/44212/moore-scotus-will-probably-ok-gay-marriage
Note that that quote is not what Moore said. Those aren’t his words. Those words are someone else’s misrepresentations of what he said.
This comes from a faulty reading of Romans 13.
The convention (ignorant, misinformed, suicidal) interpretation is this: obey civil government in everything.
The Bible does not give Civil government authority over marriage, and I don’t see the federal gov’t having authority over it in our US Constitution. The federal Courts have no more authority to impose same sex whatever on us than Roy Moore has to send out battleships or dole out national park funding.
Let’s not forget that Congress could easily have restricted the federal courts (or abolished them altogether) when the opportunity was there. I’ve heard all kinds of milquetoast excuses about why that was not done, and now look where we are.
I just read the full statement, and it’s just as damnable to Russell Moore, if not more so.
This is an excerpt of what I wrote to the author of this piece. Please read the last paragraph below:
The thing is, Gary, the first paragraph as written is misleading. The way it’s written, people are thinking that your quotation is a direct quote from the first person mentioned in that paragraph — Russell Moore. But that’s not a quote from Moore, it’s a summary from http://www.christianexaminer.com/article/southern.baptist.ethicist.says.alabama.judges.must.uphold.gay.marriage.law.or.resign/48378.htm
People are commenting as though Russell Moore literally said, “Alabama judges who in good conscience cannot issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, should resign instead of fighting the law while in office.” But, again, he did not literally say that.
I really do think you need to either update the article or leave a comment, Gary, explaining that Moore didn’t literally say those words.
I need to add that I do agree with the point of the article, of course, that it’s imperative that Judge Moore — and all the judges in the state of Alabama — not allow a federal judge to impose her will on the state of Alabama. A federal judge has no authority to change a law that is part of Alabama’s Constitution. And clearly no judge should resign, since a right-minded judge’s conscience is aligned with existing Alabama law.
You will see that the author has updated his article, making it clear that the quotation is not from Russell Moore, but from the Christian Examiner:
That was my main beef with this article, that that quote seemed directly attributed to Russell Moore.
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