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Southern Baptist Leader Says Roy Moore Should Comply with Judge’s Order or Resign
Godfather Politics ^ | February 14, 2015 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 02/14/2015 10:41:40 AM PST by fwdude

Russell Moore (no relation to Roy Moore), the head of the Southern Baptist Convention's public policy arm, “says Alabama judges who in good conscience cannot issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, should resign instead of fighting the law while in office.”

What if judges in Germany refused to approve legal orders to transport Jews to death camps? What if they just resigned? Would that have been enough? A resignation would only mean that a new judge would be appointed who would comply with the order.

A line has to be drawn somewhere.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; apostasy; homosexualagenda; judges; roymoore; russellmoore; sbc; southernbaptist
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To: fwdude; P-Marlowe

Looks like the SBC has again been taken over by liberals.

This SBC leader is in favor of Dred Scott and RoeWade. The Scotus rules so therefore it’s moral.

It is time to tear apart the fabric of this nation, and Judge Roy Moore recognizes that.


61 posted on 02/14/2015 5:08:41 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: roofgoat

Keep asking. We may all have to be mate yes one day


62 posted on 02/14/2015 6:21:00 PM PST by STJPII
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To: xzins

Russell Moore is by no means a liberal and much of this thread is a very bad reaction. I may not agree with him but I really want to understand his point because I know he knows and believes in the Word of God. He was very recently Dean of SBTS.


63 posted on 02/14/2015 6:31:18 PM PST by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: Monorprise

My feeling on this is that it’s going to take a lot more pain to get Americans off their feet and into the streets to effectively resist this tyranny. And I do mean, a LOT more pain.

It’s apparent to me, at this point, that the majority is still well insulated enough, that they’re merely uncomfortable. Discomfort does not make revolutions. Only severe and unrelenting pain brings that.


64 posted on 02/14/2015 8:09:49 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Theophilus
Resignation is a way to fight.

Fight, John Boehner, fight!

65 posted on 02/14/2015 8:12:16 PM PST by Colonel_Flagg (You're either in or in the way.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg
We are a nation at war with God and it seems to me that we are overdue for punishment. I don't know if David's rational for answering the census trilemma was folly but he was right that God is merciful.

1 Samuel 24:14
And David said unto Gad, I am in a great strait: let us fall now into the hand of the Lord; for his mercies are great: and let me not fall into the hand of man.

Boehner should resign.

The 1st Civil War was an unbearable punishment from God. Everybody lost.

66 posted on 02/14/2015 11:01:17 PM PST by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: fwdude
Roy Moore was ELECTED by the people of Alabama. He represents their will and their wishes.

Just like Boehner and Mitch represent yours, right?

67 posted on 02/14/2015 11:05:49 PM PST by itsahoot (55 years a republican-Now Independent. Will write in Sarah Palin, no matter who runs. $.98-$.89<$.10)
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To: Theophilus

Russell Moore has a record of speaking in capitulatory terms. He is a quisling, and has no business being in the influential position he occupies.


68 posted on 02/15/2015 4:42:01 AM PST by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Windflier

you summed it up well. And that pain unfortunately hits us all, even those that know what’s going on and what needs to be done.

My Dad used to get all kinds of sales courses that had different angles. He had one he shared with me long ago and the key was to find the “pain” in the customer and solve it.

If there is no pain, there is no reason to solve the problem - just as your post stated.

Lousy for the good guys/gals but unless some real gutsy folks decide to step out hard, we will see further, faster decline.


69 posted on 02/15/2015 7:22:05 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: GeronL

People like him never resign. They just continue spewing their filth till forcibly removed.


70 posted on 02/15/2015 7:58:02 AM PST by luvie (All my heroes wear camos! Thank you David, Michael, Chris, Txradioguy, JJ, CMS, & ALL Vets, too!)
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To: LUV W

exactly, they got to be dragged out of there while screaming about the injustice of it all


71 posted on 02/15/2015 8:03:15 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Windflier

I agree.


72 posted on 02/15/2015 11:58:10 AM PST by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry of "Give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: DesertRhino
43 The fact the he wasn’t ousted speaks more of the actual real word irrelevance of the SBC to the Baptist churches. They really are little more than a common effort for missions and such, though they love to portray themselves as an ersatz Vatican.

Their main other thing is education of seminary students. But make no mistake, they do not speak for the faith, therefore, you see no huge effort to take them over by normal old fashioned Baptists.

Finally, someone who knows the SBC posts an intelligible response. As other SBCs on FR haves stated, the individual Baptist churches choose to affiliate with the SBC but are not beholden to the so-called "national leaders" in Nashville, TN. So many of the resolutions that are passed every year at the annual SBC meeting are non-binding.

The SBC went through a major internicene fight back around 1979 when the "conservatives" took control of the national offices. With Russell Moore's ascension to the chairman of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Committee back in 2013, we are witnessing the SBC pendulum swing back to the left regarding matters of illegal immigration, racial integration of churches and homosexuality.

FWIIW, Russell Moore is married to a women and has children.

73 posted on 02/15/2015 12:46:32 PM PST by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: fwdude
Russell Moore has a record of speaking in capitulatory terms. He is a quisling, and has no business being in the influential position he occupies.

While I don't hold with Russell Moore's position on this, I'd like you to cite some other examples of how he has been a "quisling".

74 posted on 02/16/2015 11:54:11 AM PST by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: fwdude

That article is total fabrication. This is what Moore really said:

http://www.bpnews.net/44212/moore-scotus-will-probably-ok-gay-marriage


75 posted on 02/16/2015 3:32:04 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Note that that quote is not what Moore said. Those aren’t his words. Those words are someone else’s misrepresentations of what he said.


76 posted on 02/16/2015 3:34:30 PM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: fwdude

This comes from a faulty reading of Romans 13.

The convention (ignorant, misinformed, suicidal) interpretation is this: obey civil government in everything.

The Bible does not give Civil government authority over marriage, and I don’t see the federal gov’t having authority over it in our US Constitution. The federal Courts have no more authority to impose same sex whatever on us than Roy Moore has to send out battleships or dole out national park funding.

Let’s not forget that Congress could easily have restricted the federal courts (or abolished them altogether) when the opportunity was there. I’ve heard all kinds of milquetoast excuses about why that was not done, and now look where we are.


77 posted on 02/16/2015 3:55:12 PM PST by SecAmndmt (Arm yourselves!)
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To: Theo

I just read the full statement, and it’s just as damnable to Russell Moore, if not more so.


78 posted on 02/16/2015 10:28:54 PM PST by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: fwdude

This is an excerpt of what I wrote to the author of this piece. Please read the last paragraph below:


The thing is, Gary, the first paragraph as written is misleading. The way it’s written, people are thinking that your quotation is a direct quote from the first person mentioned in that paragraph — Russell Moore. But that’s not a quote from Moore, it’s a summary from http://www.christianexaminer.com/article/southern.baptist.ethicist.says.alabama.judges.must.uphold.gay.marriage.law.or.resign/48378.htm

People are commenting as though Russell Moore literally said, “Alabama judges who in good conscience cannot issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples, should resign instead of fighting the law while in office.” But, again, he did not literally say that.

I really do think you need to either update the article or leave a comment, Gary, explaining that Moore didn’t literally say those words.

I need to add that I do agree with the point of the article, of course, that it’s imperative that Judge Moore — and all the judges in the state of Alabama — not allow a federal judge to impose her will on the state of Alabama. A federal judge has no authority to change a law that is part of Alabama’s Constitution. And clearly no judge should resign, since a right-minded judge’s conscience is aligned with existing Alabama law.


79 posted on 02/17/2015 6:03:27 AM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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To: fwdude

You will see that the author has updated his article, making it clear that the quotation is not from Russell Moore, but from the Christian Examiner:

http://godfatherpolitics.com/20398/southern-baptist-leader-says-roy-moore-comply-judges-order-resign/

That was my main beef with this article, that that quote seemed directly attributed to Russell Moore.


80 posted on 02/17/2015 6:07:05 AM PST by Theo (May Christ be exalted above all.)
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