Posted on 02/02/2015 10:57:51 AM PST by GIdget2004
The Lakewood Estates neighborhood is filled with families and children. On any given day, you'll see kids climbing trees and playing on swing sets.
That's why news of a residential gun range did not sit well with neighbors.
“I don't know if this idiot is going to start popping off rounds,” said Patrick Leary. “I'm furious.”
Moms and dads are extremely upset after their 21-year-old neighbor, Joseph Carannate, told them he built a homemade gun range.
“I don't want to hurt myself or any neighbors. I don't want to hurt anybody. I just want to use this as my enjoyment,” Carannate told News Channel 8. “I don't want to have to go to a gun range, when I can just go outside my door.”
Carannate wants to fire his 9mm in his St. Petersburg yard, which happens to be just feet away from children. According to St. Petersburg Police, legally he's allowed to do it.
“I wouldn't have done all this if I didn't know the reaction,” Carannate told us, who claims he has all the proper paperwork for his weapon.
He says he will inform neighbors when he intends to fire his gun, which he hopes to do every other weekend.
Residents tell us that's not good enough.
Leary added, “You heard him say, I'll tell the neighbors when I'm getting ready to fire. What, do we gather our children and hide? Ridiculous. C'mon.”
(Excerpt) Read more at wfla.com ...
“Your freedom to swing your fist ends at my nose.”
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You don’t actually have to hit my nose. Just swing at it pal. Make a move. My nose or any of my neighbors
Chances are you will get the beatdown you deserve.
In case you miss the obvious reference here; this applies to shooting near our children too.
The lot is 75’ wide. I just checked property records.
There were aerial views in the video.
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Posted on Tuesday, January 27, 2015 11:02:52 AM by Iron Munro
I’ve often thought about building a pistol range in my basement by installing 100 linear feet (or 50’ depending upon budget) of underground 36” or 48” box culvert, starting from a basement wall (w/bottom of the culvert about counter-top height above the floor), and extending out in to me yard.
A manhole access in the final box-section would allow for maintenance, and for retrieval of lead.
and loudly play “Ride of the Valkyries” on your outdoor speakers!
That means that if it is around 1/4 acre in size, then it is a maximum of 160’ long.
Depending upon the orientation and construction of the shooting range, that’s still kind of tight - and it appears his quality of construction id defintitely lacking.
A local country club has a skeet range. This is a pretty high density area — 1/4 to 1/2 acre lots is about the average. They get away with it because they only use it on Sunday afternoon. All my life, I’ve been able to tell when it was Sunday afternoon by the pop, pop, pop.
No man can use his property to endanger or damage his neighbor. That has been the law for centuries.
I once lived in a small subdivision outside Vicksburg, MS. The loess soil in that area has to cut vertically instead of being sloped as other soils.
One morning the neighbor fired a revolver into the bank behind his house. Our lots were much less than a quarter acre. After the sheriff confirmed it was legal, I did the same using the high bank that extended behind both of the houses for a backstop.
That area had lots of signs warning people not to fire guns from the highway. It wasn’t unusual to drive by a place and see people standing not far off the road using the cuts as backstops for target practice.
Ya and fire off rounds in beat with the music ....
Based on the construction methods he used for his backstop, I'm leaning towards "yes, he would be endangering others if he utilizes his 'gun range'"
Of course, I have not seen the property in person, but the lots are pretty small so it's a virtual certainty that someone's yard or house is less than 100' behind his poorly constructed backstop.
Poor choice of backstop, I wouldn’t consider it a safe range with buildings that close. I think my first phone call would be to figure out who is insuring the property and notify them that someone is using the back yard as a shooting range. Pretty sure that no insurance company wants to have this covered under normal insurance, and would likely demand a proper rider for this activity be written and paid for.
I don’t have a problem with people setting up a range. But almost every time I’ve seen it done, it has been in a rural setting on a large property. This is just mickey moused and not very safe. I have had shots go wide and high. Unlikely with safe gun handling, but unlikely, to me, is still too high of a risk in a housing development.
But my point has always been about Principle. On a daily basis, I see people who ostensibly believe in limited government, yet they constantly point and say "I don't like that -- there ought to be a law!"
Some laws have value. I am not an anarchist. I am not a Libertarian. But I like limited government. And, as a general statement of Principle, I don't want my neighbors to control how I live. And when I say "neighbor", I don't me the guy whose house I can see through the trees. I basically mean You. Or Harry Reid.
But, yes, a patently unsafe gun range would seem to be a bad choice in a tightly packed community.
It sounds like who had a safe backstop.
If you have a chance, take a look at the photos/videos of what this fellow has built.
Probably a powered vent near or at the manhole access.
SORRY!
“It sounds like YOU had a safe backstop...”
After the first shot fired one or all of the neighbors will file a nuisance suit on the basis of sound. And it will be successful.
I agree 100%.
None of my posts have advocated having the government solve this issue.
I believe in personal freedom coupled with personal responsibility -— with a little common courtesy thrown in whenever possible.
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