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George Zimmerman assault case dropped; ex-girlfriend recants
Associated Press ^ | Jan 30, 2015 12:02 PM EST | Mike Schneider

Posted on 01/30/2015 9:41:24 AM PST by Olog-hai

An aggravated assault case against George Zimmerman that was opened when his ex-girlfriend said he threw a wine bottle at her has been dropped because she recanted her story and stopped cooperating with investigators, a prosecutor said Friday.

State Attorney Phil Archer said he wouldn’t file a formal charge against Zimmerman, the former neighborhood watch leader who was acquitted of killing Trayvon Martin. The killing of the unarmed black teen touched off protests across the country.

The ex-girlfriend had made it clear she didn’t want to cooperate with Lake Mary Police officers, and there were no other eyewitnesses to what happened earlier this month, Archer said.

“While it is clear that the officers had probable cause to arrest Mr. Zimmerman … the subsequent recantation by the victim of her initial statement … precludes my office from proceeding further,” Archer said in a statement. …

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: brittanybrunelle; georgezimmerman; trayvon; trayvonmartin; waronmen; whitehispanic; zimmerman
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To: Olog-hai

Aren’t gays arguably more vindictive than women? No. He should just quit relationships cold turkey. He obviously doesn’t do too well when he’s in them.


61 posted on 01/30/2015 11:44:06 AM PST by Politicalkiddo ("Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young..." -1 Timothy 4:12)
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To: Olog-hai

Naaah, sheep. They can’t call the police or make accusations.


62 posted on 01/30/2015 11:45:19 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong

I believe we’re all agreed that there is no shred of proof whatever against George Zimmerman.

Best to leave it there.


63 posted on 01/30/2015 11:53:48 AM PST by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: Robert DeLong

So you’re a “it’s the seriousness of the charge that’s important, not whether it’s true or not” type of guy?


64 posted on 01/30/2015 11:56:12 AM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: agere_contra

So now you are telling what I can and can’t do. Better think again. All I agreed to was that he should sue, however, there is certainly no proof that supports George Zimmerman when it comes to these cases beyond Trayvon.


65 posted on 01/30/2015 11:58:23 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong
Another armchair lawyer.

Nope, I'm just a guy without a chip on my shoulder.

You are entitled to your opinion. But, you aren't entitled to your own facts.

But, when someone disagrees with you, you aren't entitled to demand proof for their opinion, when you can't provide any proof for yours.

That she recanted is not proof that she is a liar, for her motivation may be trying to keep name from being known.

The definition of "recant" is to "to withdraw or repudiate (a statement or belief) formally and publicly", or "make an open confession of error".

So, by definition: she either told a falsehood earlier, or she is doing so now. I'm sure you would like to believe she is telling a falsehood now, but she has chosen to let this statement stand.

By recanting, her name escapes being printed by the news outlets.

It's too late for that. Someone has already posted an article that not only identifies the woman, it shows her face in a video.

Now if you have intimate knowledge about this case, then provide it, otherwise, you are just demanding I accept your opinion and I'm afraid that is not going to happen.

I don't care whether you accept my opinion or not. But, demanding contrary proof for an unsupported assertion is a what is known as a Negative Proof Fallacy. It's the kind of thing to which bullies resort on the playground. I presume that you are an adult -- maybe you should start acting like one.

66 posted on 01/30/2015 12:00:04 PM PST by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: House Atreides

Whatever. Are you a lawyer?


67 posted on 01/30/2015 12:00:06 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Olog-hai

She must really love him


68 posted on 01/30/2015 12:02:46 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Robert DeLong

Ok, I tried to give you an out.

I thought you might have been a decent guy who stumbled onto the wrong side of a controversy, so I made it easy. I gave you an innocous, mutually-agreeable point to fade out on.

But now you’re telling the thread that accused people are guilty and must prove their innocence.


69 posted on 01/30/2015 12:06:29 PM PST by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: Olog-hai

There is a HOT, CRAZY matrix. He should check it out!


70 posted on 01/30/2015 12:10:12 PM PST by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: Robert DeLong

“Whatever. Are you a lawyer?”
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Nope, I’m a “The first thing we do, let’s kill all the lawyers” type of guy.


71 posted on 01/30/2015 12:26:00 PM PST by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: Gay State Conservative
If I can do it...why can't GZ?

I agree and very good question.

72 posted on 01/30/2015 12:27:36 PM PST by Eaker (I'm a glass half-shattered kinda guy.)
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To: Olog-hai; Joe Brower

Florida news.

By the way, anyone think the liberal south Florida media—so VERY EAGER to report this story against Zimmerman—will report he has been, for all intents and purposes, EXONERATED?

Of course not.


73 posted on 01/30/2015 12:30:13 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: justlurking
It's too late for that. Someone has already posted an article that not only identifies the woman, it shows her face in a video.

So provide me with her name. I haven't been able to find it. I did find the name of the 1st girlfriend Samantha Scheibe, but not this latest girlfriend's name.

Nope, I'm just a guy without a chip on my shoulder.

So you think I have a chip on my shoulder. That's laughable. What would be the cause for this chip on my shoulder?

But, when someone disagrees with you, you aren't entitled to demand proof for their opinion, when you can't provide any proof for yours.

Excuse me, but he had asked me for my proof first. At least I provided statements made by a 3rd party, thus I wasn't providing my own facts as you erroneously state. Then I asked him for his proof. So yes I can, and I did.

Recant - to withdraw or repudiate (a statement or belief) formally and publicly. Thus the recant in this case means she withdrew, it does not mean she repudiated it. If you are going to explain the definition of a word you need to make sure you understand it first. Did she say she lied? Did the prosecutor say she lied? If that were the case then why isn't the prosecutor charging her? Since he didn't I have to conclude that she withdrew her statement only.

I don't care whether you accept my opinion or not. But, demanding contrary proof for an unsupported assertion is a what is known as a Negative Proof Fallacy. It's the kind of thing to which bullies resort on the playground. I presume that you are an adult -- maybe you should start acting like one.

Perhaps you need to gather your facts first, since you obviously missed his request that I prove my opinion first, and then I asked him to prove his opinion after providing the facts I was using to come to my opinion. Let my put it to rest so you no longer have to presume, I am an adult who never bullied anyone. Nor did I engage in Negative Proof Fallacy. I merely tossed it back into his court. Of course I don't see you accusing him of using Negative Proof Fallacy.

74 posted on 01/30/2015 12:36:07 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong
Um, your post 65?

" there is certainly no proof that supports George Zimmerman when it comes to these cases beyond Trayvon"?

Sounds like you require him to prove his innocence.

But hey, 'prove' me wrong. Agree that there's no proof of George Zimmerman's guilt in this assault case.

Or - alternatively - argue that he must prove a negative.

75 posted on 01/30/2015 12:49:08 PM PST by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: agere_contra
I never said that, I said the reality is you are guilty until a jury finds you innocent (once you get embroiled in the system). I also said why it has never been the case that you are innocent until proven guilty, because if you are innocent until proven guilty why do you have to provide bail to get out of jail before your trial. Why would an innocent person have to provide monies he/she may not possess at the time of arrest?

I thought you might have been a decent guy who stumbled onto the wrong side of a controversy

There you go again, proclaiming you are correct and I am wrong. Let me tell you so you no longer have to think, I am a decent guy. While I have no problem with stating that I may indeed be on the wrong side of this controversy, that would be impossible for you to admit.

BTW. I do not need your help as I am an old man who does not need saving by you. That's what my belief in Christ is for and he is the only savior I need.

76 posted on 01/30/2015 12:52:21 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Robert DeLong

Ok Robert: we’ve probably got as far as we’re going to get with this.

God bless and have a good afternoon/evening. I’m off to bed.


77 posted on 01/30/2015 12:56:26 PM PST by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: agere_contra
Sounds like you require him to prove his innocence

You sure read in things that don't exist don't you. Need I remind you what you said: there's no proof of George Zimmerman's guilt in this assault case. I merely turned your statement around to show you that there are two plausible sides that could be deemed factual. Of course only one is. Neither you nor I know which is and which isn't factual. Fortunately he doesn't have to prove his innocence or guilt since she recanted, nor was I suggesting that he must. I was refuting your claim that she was a liar.

I see you are going to bed. Sleep tight.

78 posted on 01/30/2015 1:05:36 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: House Atreides
To answer you original question, I made no claim to know his innocence or guilt. However, he is a troubled man, of that I can be sure. I cannot be sure if he is the source of his trouble, but I am beginning to suspect that he is. I certainly can understand how he got there, but it is my opinion that he is not serving himself very well since his original case, a case he didn't deserve (again my opinion). I feel deeply saddened by his trials and tribulations, but like I said it is my opinion that he is the cause of his most recent problems.

Not sure what really prompted this question from you though, as what we were debating was whether the girl lied about the assault in question.

79 posted on 01/30/2015 1:28:56 PM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Cementjungle; Robert DeLong

He was lucky to have survived the attack by the “child.” I would hate to be a hunted man like he is. However, he sure has been going to court alot on Domestic charges. Coincidental?
I dunno.


80 posted on 01/30/2015 3:27:01 PM PST by Sasparilla (If you want peace, prepare for war.)
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