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Hospitals Giving 'Death Test' to Seniors
Newser ^ | 01/25/2016 | Neal Colgrass,

Posted on 01/26/2015 12:38:22 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

(Newser) Seniors had better brace themselves: Some US hospitals are now administering the "death test," which estimates their chance of dying over the next 30 days. Invented in Australia, the test weighs 29 different criteria—including blood pressure, respiratory rate, and medical history—to determine whether hospitalization is worthwhile or the patient should return home or go to a hospice, the Sydney Morning Herald reports. The idea is to prevent needless and expensive procedures while allowing patients to spend their last days with loved ones. "Most terminally ill people want to die at home, but in fact three quarters end up dying in acute hospitals, often after intrusive, expensive and ultimately pointless medical procedures," says study author Magnolia Cardona-Morrell, the Independent reports.   

The test also aims to take pressure off doctors and nurses to prolong patients' lives "at all costs," the Telegraph reports. "I had lots of nurses and doctors standing there saying, 'We have been waiting for a tool like this for years, when can we start using it?'" says Cardona-Morrell, whose work was presented recently at a US medical conference. "To me that is an indication there is a need out there." She says the test takes just five or ten minutes, and helps doctors have a more "transparent" conversation with patients. Called CriSTAL, it's now being tested to see if it would have predicted the future of patients who have since died. Then it may be used in more hospitals. (In related news, a study says those who feel younger than their age will live longer.)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; australia; australiadeathtest; cardonamorrell; cristal; deathpanels; deathtest; hospitaldeathtest; obamacare; palinwasright; usdeathtest
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To: Red Badger

You’ve been saving that one, haven’t you? :)


41 posted on 01/26/2015 1:37:01 PM PST by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: SandRat
You did catch my sarcasm, right?
42 posted on 01/26/2015 1:38:34 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the fascists.)
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To: SandRat

Those darn old folks......


43 posted on 01/26/2015 1:38:37 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Red Badger

Cat scan? Should be Cat Eat...


44 posted on 01/26/2015 1:41:46 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Bring me to the beach. Put me in a comfortable lounge chair. Strap a margarita IV to me with some Demerolin it. Put a pair of sun glasses and a hat on me.

Come back after high tide.


45 posted on 01/26/2015 1:42:01 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

So that is the chosen method by which to introduce the death panels—with cheerfulness. Hell, people want to die at home.


46 posted on 01/26/2015 1:43:32 PM PST by odawg
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yep! I was just LOL on FR.


47 posted on 01/26/2015 1:45:10 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else need s said?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
BtD: "Oh, howdy, Doc. How did the tests go?"

Doc: "I'm sorry to tell you, Mr. Drill, but it's terminal."

BtD: "Uh, what is? I'm here for my bunions."

Doc: "Bunions are only a sign of a much larger problem, Mr. Drill."

BtD: "But I feel fine, Doc, honest. Well, except for the bunions. What else is wrong with me?"

Doc: "Pull out yer wallet."

(BtD pulls out wallet.)

Doc: "That party listing there? Independent. That's one problem. Date of Birth? That's another one."

BtD: "Well, OK, I guess I'll just have to be content with being bunioned to death. See ya, Doc."

Doc: (Pulls sleeve) "Not so fast, Mr. Drill. We can't let you out of here with a bad case of bunions. They might spread."

BtD: "BUNIONS AREN'T CONTAGIOUS! LEGGO ME!"

Doc: (Nods toward two huge attendants)

BtD: "Wait! Where we going? What's that sign, 'Organ Harvesting'?"

Doc: "Here, now it's just one little pill, Mr. Drill, and you'll feel much better. Your bunion organs are fine. The rest of them will have to go."

48 posted on 01/26/2015 1:45:43 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SandRat

LOL!


49 posted on 01/26/2015 1:48:16 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the fascists.)
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To: Delta Dawn

I got a million of’em!............


50 posted on 01/26/2015 1:51:57 PM PST by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: sickoflibs

Which is why government has no business running health insurance.


51 posted on 01/26/2015 1:58:55 PM PST by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: LucyT

Death-panels ping

““Elderly people who are dying need to be protected from heroic but intrusive live-saving hospital interventions that often only prolong suffering rather than enhance quality of remaining life.”

The checklist is only meant to be used for patients aged 65 or over and a number of factors must combine for death to be considered “unavoidable”.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/doctors-to-trial-29point-checklist-for-elderly-patients-facing-unavoidable-death-in-australia-9998514.html
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“Dr Cardona-Morrel said the test was already being used in some Irish and US hospitals, and she hoped it would be in use in Australian hospitals by the end of the year.”

http://www.smh.com.au/national/cristal-test-determines-likelihood-of-death-within-30-days-20150125-12xt4v.html
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The death test is to protect the elderly. Hmmm....

Exactly which hospitals in the US are using the death test?


52 posted on 01/26/2015 2:05:52 PM PST by thouworm
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To: Red Badger

LOL!


53 posted on 01/26/2015 2:09:09 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Just say to NO Rhinos in 2016.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Actually, I’m a conservative Republican.”

“Oh, well you’re going on the death list, that’s for certain.”

“You know, it’s a funny thing. I’ve got an older brother, and every time a doctor wanted to euthanize him, before they could sign the paperwork they had an unfortunate, fatal accident. And yet my brother is still walking around. Fancy that.”


54 posted on 01/26/2015 2:21:22 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Old man: "Help, I was bitten by a rabid dog."

Doctor: "I'm sorry but if we don't treat you, you'll be dead within 30 days, so...we're not going to treat you."

55 posted on 01/26/2015 2:26:37 PM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Responsibility2nd
Basically this is the governments plan to kill you off when you stop working (paying taxes) and become a "drain on society" (enjoying their retirement savings). They will be denied healthcare and allowed to pass "naturally", then their estate will be looted and anything left to heirs will be taxed to nothing. Of course, all politicians who passed this garbage will be exempt...

Bastards!

56 posted on 01/26/2015 3:19:39 PM PST by Dubh_Ghlase
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To: MortMan
RE:”Which is why government has no business running health insurance.”

But I wouldn't call medicare health insurance, its more like health care...single payer health care.

But its popular because someone else is forced to pay the bills.

57 posted on 01/26/2015 4:09:25 PM PST by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: thouworm; Old Sarge; EnigmaticAnomaly; Califreak; kalee; TWhiteBear; freeangel; Godzilla; ...

Thouworm wrote:

Death-panels ping

““Elderly people who are dying need to be protected from heroic but intrusive live-saving hospital interventions that often only prolong suffering rather than enhance quality of remaining life.”

The checklist is only meant to be used for patients aged 65 or over and a number of factors must combine for death to be considered “unavoidable”.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/doctors-to-trial-29point-checklist-for-elderly-patients-facing-unavoidable-death-in-australia-9998514.html
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“Dr Cardona-Morrel said the test was already being used in some Irish and US hospitals, and she hoped it would be in use in Australian hospitals by the end of the year.”

http://www.smh.com.au/national/cristal-test-determines-likelihood-of-death-within-30-days-20150125-12xt4v.html
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The death test is to protect the elderly. Hmmm....

Exactly which hospitals in the US are using the death test?

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Check out article and #29.

Thanks, thouworm.


58 posted on 01/26/2015 10:29:35 PM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT; thouworm; Old Sarge; EnigmaticAnomaly; Califreak; kalee; TWhiteBear; freeangel; Godzilla

Don’t look at me, Lucy. I flunked that test years ago.


59 posted on 01/26/2015 10:40:38 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: LucyT; Red Badger; All

Thanks for the ping; LOL; thread.

Americans give death test to socialists. DEPOPULATE them from the body politic. DISMANTLE their collectives/schemes.

live - free - republic

and send THEM the bill for this…

http://www.usdebtclock.org

We the peoples revenue service may have to confiscate all of their assets.

Socialism Is Legal Plunder - Bastiat

C’mon 2016


60 posted on 01/27/2015 6:05:53 AM PST by PGalt
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