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1 posted on 01/09/2015 7:04:41 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Only comment is America is a Nation of idiots. Washington is so corrupt it cannot be saved. Palin or Levin or not. King Obama should have been stopped for his second term no matter what. It is those that could not see who King Obama is. He is a communists BLACK Muslim traitor and proved his worth during his first term. Second term of this King with no GOP worth a damn is disaster.

40 posted on 01/09/2015 7:45:54 AM PST by Logical me
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if it’s Jeb vs Hillary then I’d expect someone with money, like Donald Trump, to run and get a Ross Perot sized percentage of the vote .... Jeb vs Hillary 2016 race is just begging for a big name, big money, big ego person to get in...it’s an easy sell for a 3rd party guy...”you really want another Clinton or Bush?”

and of course that all leads to a Hillary landslide ....and the final and complete destruction of Jeb and the fam....


41 posted on 01/09/2015 7:46:30 AM PST by thestob
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Is Jeb Bush pro-life? That may be his only saving stance. Surely he is and proud to be but how will he articulate his stand? I hope he is not the nominee.


42 posted on 01/09/2015 7:48:03 AM PST by outinyellowdogcountry
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Comments? This is what I’ve been telling people for quite a while. Jeb Bush means the destruction of the Republican party. Most likely Christie and Romney as well.


44 posted on 01/09/2015 7:48:55 AM PST by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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I heard Levin talking about the new, incoming freshman class of republicans as being the weakest he's seen, as they completely folded to Boehner shortly after arriving in DC.

What's a "republican" and why would I waste a vote and a donation on one if it turns into a progressive as soon as the election is over?

45 posted on 01/09/2015 7:53:14 AM PST by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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I don’t see Bush inviting Palin, either. I don’t see the republicans winning if they have Bush, Christie, Romney, McCain, or any of the others who have said they might consider a run...Portman?, etc. We are NOT IN THE MOOD to play these games any more and I wrote my Congressman this morning to address my displeasure with his vote for Boehner and to express my hope that he’ll stand on the conservative principles he ran on. I told him I was seriously thinking of looking for a new party.

These Congress-critters need to get MILLIONS of these letters from the conservative base. THEN we’ll see if they will listen or blow us off...in which case we’ll know for sure that they hate us and do not want us. We cannot go on like we have. We have got to put off this nonsense that we will make them listen. Its not a matter of them hearing us. It is a matter of them keeping their word and listening to the American people who put them in office. They are VERY sure that we will not flee the republican party and even though we are upset, they can count on us to keep them in office. You all do realize that they have NO INTENTION of doing our bidding, but will jump when the lobbyists say jump. Let’s not stay in this stupid game. I’m tired of being “had” over and again. What promises have the republicans KEPT in the past 6 years, let alone the past 20 years?


50 posted on 01/09/2015 8:05:32 AM PST by Shery (Pray for righteousness to be restored and for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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With the recrowning of the cryin Cheeto, the Gelded Old Pansies are deader than the Whiggs. Nothing will change without a true opposition party. The GOPe likes the ‘Rats more than Conservatives. The jig is up.


52 posted on 01/09/2015 8:07:12 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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At this point, my opinion of Republicans is no different than my opinion of Democrats - 0% trust. They are, and have been, for decades, two sides of the same coin. And a worthless one at that.

There is no saving the Whig Party. They have made it painfully evident, in words and in deeds, that THEY DON’T WANT CONSERVATIVES IN THE PARTY.

Why persist in staying where we are not wanted. The GOPe ignore us with impunity. They attack us. They do not represent us.


55 posted on 01/09/2015 8:17:00 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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Who of the potential Democratic candidates is to the left of Obama? I don’t even think Bernie Sanders is to his left and he may even hate America less. In other words, since we have already been subjected to the worse outcome the only thing that can change the direction of the country is a true conservative. I will not vote for Bush, Christie or Romney even I it means that Hillary or Bernie win. I just won’t vote for the candidate that gives us more of the same even if the initial after their name is different.


59 posted on 01/09/2015 8:26:56 AM PST by Armando Guerra (Enjoying Barack Obama's Legacy America?)
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Sorta sychophantic

Real conservatives don’t need any pundit or politician to tell them who to vote for

And sometimes those two mentioned are actually wrongheaded

Not often but it happens


62 posted on 01/09/2015 8:31:21 AM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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If someone like Bush or Christie is the nominee then a large segment of the conservative base will walk, and they’ll walk regardless of what Palin or Levin do. They won’t have to be lead.


64 posted on 01/09/2015 8:34:46 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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If conservatives are advised by Governor Palin (unlike in 2012) and Mark Levin to either stay home...

I don't vote based on advice from anyone...as for Governor Palin and Mark Levin; I don't thing either of them has the guts to leave the GOP.

65 posted on 01/09/2015 8:36:23 AM PST by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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People want REAL political interaction.. NOT a ONE PARTY system running a non-stop Kabuki theater performance.


74 posted on 01/09/2015 9:13:14 AM PST by VideoDoctor
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If conservatives are advised by Governor Palin (unlike in 2012) and Mark Levin to either stay home or vote third-party, then it is impossible to see how Florida could be won by, for example, Jeb Bush...

Yet, the eGOP continues to trash conservatives.

How much sense does that make?

96 posted on 01/09/2015 12:05:07 PM PST by gogeo (If you are Tea Party, the Republican Party does not want you.)
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Wow -- what a great piece, thanks for posting it, 2ndDV! I hope everyone here reads it all the way through.

There is one place where I think I disagree -- he says, "The ball is in the Establishment's Court, not Palin's or Levin's ...."

Well, yeah, until the Republican presidential nominee is determined. I think it's woefully unrealistic to think the Establishment GOP protocol and hierarchy is going to turn around in less than two years to suddenly reflect "the base" and nominate an actual limited government conservative.

Once the nomination is determined, and if it goes as it probably will and a RINO functional Democrat-Republican is put forth as the desperate "alternative" to the eeeeeeeevil Democrat, the ball is most decidedly going to be in Palin's and Levin's court.

103 posted on 01/09/2015 1:04:35 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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I promise there will never be a Jeb Bush President. We’ve had enough of the Bushes.


109 posted on 01/09/2015 1:14:40 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Sorry to be late to this thread, but it is an important one, among several about the subject of leaving the Republican party that have been bandied about lately. I wanted to just add this one thought to all the good comments in this thread:

Boehner has shown that he is a coward when it comes to Democrats. If Obama threatens to do something, Boehner caves in. He doesn't even have to do it, just release a leak to a left wing newspaper, and Boehner will do as Obama demands. Thus we got Cromnibus, because God forbid we don't give Obama everything he wants. He might shut down the government and blame us, and we can't have that.

We also know he reacts the opposite to conservative threats. When opposed from the right, he fights hard and dirty. Lies to his own members. Lies to the voters. Fails to make bills available. Takes committee positions away. Etc. etc.

Would this coward stand up to Palin, Cruz, Levin and Limbaugh backed by tens of millions of Tea Party Americans? Or would he cave in, as is his custom? I am not sure, but I would like to test him with the same kind of threats that Obama issues to him daily. For example, Palin, Cruz, Levin and Limbaugh announce that if the House funds amnesty and Obamacare, they are leaving the party and taking the formal steps to create the party, and raising the money for it, of which Limbaugh pledges to provide the first $5 million, would he proceed? In other words, wield the threats against Boehner the way that Obama does. Force him to choose which side he fears or respects more. And then act accordingly.

I think he would choose Obama, because I think he is actually a progressive. But it would give him a chance to reconsider and do the right thing. It would give us the event needed to make the final break. And it would help start the mass movement needed to bring the reign of the uniparty to an end.

123 posted on 01/09/2015 4:22:17 PM PST by Defiant (Please excuse Mr. Clinton for his involvement with young girls. --Epstein's Mother)
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LOL


126 posted on 01/09/2015 7:47:27 PM PST by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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Walking away could work, but Conservatives must still vote for the Congressional seats.


129 posted on 01/15/2015 2:06:08 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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This is not breaking news. It's an opinion piece.

132 posted on 01/15/2015 2:18:57 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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